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Originally posted by elroy45 elroy45 wrote:

Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Englands late goal against Slovenia seems massive now as it put them out. A draw and they would be playing for the playoffs like Scotland, therefore more chance of a draw. I was cheering Scotland on the other night but it's funny I'll be cheering Slovenia tomorrow


Don't agree. I think a draw there would've been good as it would've given Slovenia a more realistic chance at second. But even with that draw and a win over Scots they would only have 18 points whereas we must finish with 19.


Thats what I mean. The English goal massive in a bad way for the reasons you state. And the fact Slovenia have nothing to play for giving Scotland the edge
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Well there goes that! Onto tomorrow!
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Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Originally posted by elroy45 elroy45 wrote:

Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Englands late goal against Slovenia seems massive now as it put them out. A draw and they would be playing for the playoffs like Scotland, therefore more chance of a draw. I was cheering Scotland on the other night but it's funny I'll be cheering Slovenia tomorrow


Don't agree. I think a draw there would've been good as it would've given Slovenia a more realistic chance at second. But even with that draw and a win over Scots they would only have 18 points whereas we must finish with 19.


Thats what I mean. The English goal massive in a bad way for the reasons you state. And the fact Slovenia have nothing to play for giving Scotland the edge

Depends what you mean by 'nothing to play for'. They're still going to try and finish with a win given how high up the table they are. It's not as if they are languishing on 6 points or something. Also they may feel they owe Scotland something having lost the first one 1-0 with a very late Scottish goal.
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onto tomorrow, didn't hold out much hope for tonight anyway so not surprised 
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If we win 3-0 in Wales we will be exactly level with Greece. It will go to fair play points.

This is all assuming Greece beat Gibraltar, which they will.
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Righr so, greece can finish on 13 points now too like us, they only have +6 goal difference, and im sure a few of those were against the rock, catchable?
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The Slovenia-Scotland match is the earlier ko tomorrow - 5pm.
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Oh Slovenia please don't lose tomorrow, nerves are gonna be bad enough on Monday without needing two results to go our way
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Right so thats greece out of reach unless we win 3-0 in cardiff I think. Onto the jocks tomorrow. Our own fault really if we hadnt gone into games so negatively we wouldnt be in this position.
Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Personally think teams like Cyprus and Greece should be kept apart in qualifying, oldest trick in the book it looked like tonight, let them score first it will not look as bad
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Seriously what Hans? You just claimed that prior results are no indication as to the probability of scoring 5-6 goals against a team, which is about as brain dead an assertion as saying Spains previous form would have no bearing on our probability of beating them.

What the hell are you even talking about? Are you on magic mushrooms?

Let me ask you this, and please just answer straight up. If there was a scenario where we were playing Moldova at home in our final group game, we were 2 up after 20 minutes and knew that a 6 goal margin would qualify us for the World Cup, do you think we could manage to beat them by 6?
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We have 17 yellows and no reds.

Greece have 17 yellows and 3 reds (one straight, and two for two yellows).

So if we win 3-0, we will be through, provided we don't do it in an incredibly undisciplined way.

That words out as -17 fair play points for us, but -27 fair play points for Greece.


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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

We have 17 yellows and no reds.

Greece have 17 yellows and 3 reds (one straight, and two for two yellows).

So if we win 3-0, we will be through, provided we don't do it in an incredibly undisciplined way.

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That was the biggest fix I have ever seen tonight. An absolute embarrassment. The fans weren't even whistling for the team to push on. I wonder could that ever be investigated, it literally couldn't have been more obvious. 

Anyways, frustration out. Be nice to know what we need before KO in Cardiff but we just need to win. Scotland will surely not miss out on this opportunity. 
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

We have 17 yellows and no reds.

Greece have 17 yellows and 3 reds (one straight, and two for two yellows).

So if we win 3-0, we will be through, provided we don't do it in an incredibly undisciplined way.


Brilliant as always! Your head must be melted going through all of this!
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