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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Polskis are higher in the World Rankings

Joke, just because they had good recent from.
 
Apart from Denmark hammering them 4-0.
 
Group of Death
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Spain
Denmark
Serbia
 
 
Except there can only be a maximum of 2 European teams per group
Of course.
 
But its not an open draw then like before.
 
Pot One - Seeds
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Pot Three - African & SA non-seeds
Pot Four - sh*te
 
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Originally posted by baresi41 baresi41 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

What times the draw

3pm GMT according to the BBC. Hope INGERLAND get Serbia. Ruskies will back the Serbs and batter the britsCry

Hang on, why do you wish people to get hurt? We had the same set of arseholes 2 years ago, thankfully not around anymore.
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Polskis are higher in the World Rankings

Joke, just because they had good recent from.
 
Apart from Denmark hammering them 4-0.
 
Group of Death
Germany
Spain
Denmark
Serbia
 
 
Except there can only be a maximum of 2 European teams per group
Of course.
 
But its not an open draw then like before.
 
Pot One - Seeds
Pot Two - European non-seeds
Pot Three - African & SA non-seeds
Pot Four - sh*te
 
True. LOL
 
Anyway, that setup you have mentioned there has been done away with - Apart from the host nation, FIFA are now using world rankings to seed the teams but there'll still be that rule where there can only be max 2 European teams in any group and one team from any other confederation in any group (eg you won't have Nigeria and Senegal in the same group).
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What is the worst group of death considering only 2 European teams

Brazil
Spain
Senegal
Serbia

or maybe

Germany
Uruguay
Senegal
Serbia

A lot of dung in pot 3 & 4

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Group of Dung

Poland
Peru
Iran
Saudi Arabia

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Yeah there's alot of dung in pot 3 and 4.

An English fan should actually want to be drawn with a european team from pot 1 which means they'll draw with the dung remaining in 3 and 4 and should easily qualify in 2nd.


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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by ringerbell ringerbell wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

I thought we want England to lose.
This is the same Argentina who amazingly struggled with only 1 goalscorer in 2017.

I’d actually have England as the favourites


Don't think you'd get many bookies agreeing with you on England been favourites

And when then 1 goalscorer is Messi that's all they need in mist games


Fair point but a team who fails to score against Venezuela doesn’t deserve to be at a World Cup never mind be a favourite for a match imo.

If only it was possible to take Messi and Mascherano but leave the other players home as they were absolutely useless throughout the entire campaign


They still a team that over the course of qualification got what was required to qualify (Also note Uruguay also drew 0-0 against Venezuela in qualifying)

The same team that drew with Venezuela beat teams like Uruguay,Columbia,Chile as well as drawing with brazil which is enough to have them as favourites against yet another overrated england side
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Hoping for:

England
Argentina
Sweden
¥Japan

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Originally posted by randyrandolph randyrandolph wrote:

Hoping for:

England
Argentina
Sweden
¥Japan

Hmm, they did that after the WC10 draw didn't they:
 
England
Algeria
Slovenia
Yanks
 
Yeah, England really made that group look like a piece of pi55 alright...LOL
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Seriously why do they have all this sh*te before the draw LOL
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Originally posted by ringerbell ringerbell wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by ringerbell ringerbell wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

I thought we want England to lose.
This is the same Argentina who amazingly struggled with only 1 goalscorer in 2017.

I’d actually have England as the favourites


Don't think you'd get many bookies agreeing with you on England been favourites

And when then 1 goalscorer is Messi that's all they need in mist games


Fair point but a team who fails to score against Venezuela doesn’t deserve to be at a World Cup never mind be a favourite for a match imo.

If only it was possible to take Messi and Mascherano but leave the other players home as they were absolutely useless throughout the entire campaign


They still a team that over the course of qualification got what was required to qualify (Also note Uruguay also drew 0-0 against Venezuela in qualifying)

The same team that drew with Venezuela beat teams like Uruguay,Columbia,Chile as well as drawing with brazil which is enough to have them as favourites against yet another overrated england side


I don't think this English side is overrated at all. This English side has multiple players at their very peak in the Champions League - Kane, Sterling, Walker and some major breakthroughs since as Winks.
The biggest downside to them is their manager is a bigger dinosaur than ours (perhaps not that bad but definitely on a T-Rex level)
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If this current English side goes further than the 1/4 finals il be very surprised. Using players like winks to expel the overrated opinion doesn't help you much either he wouldn't get into majority of top sides imo

Past England sides not only had players in them that were playing well in the champions league but had players who were winning the competition. Don't think the current squad is as good as past squads and have a manager that's handing out caps like sweets

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Anyone else looking at who Serbia draw and thinking that would be us?

If we had won our group or beat Denmark we would be pot 4 in that place and Serbia would have been pushed up to pot 3


Oh what could have been..
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Looking at the sides in pot 3 and 4 just makes this all the more painful
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Originally posted by Pubes Pubes wrote:

Anyone else looking at who Serbia draw and thinking that would be us?

If we had won our group or beat Denmark we would be pot 4 in that place and Serbia would have been pushed up to pot 3


Oh what could have been..


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Spain and Portugal in the same group
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Meh England get the European side in pot 1, which means they'll get the dullard teams from 3 and 4.

Belgium v England should be a great game however and both should be going through, exact same can be said for Portugal v Spain.
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Russia in the group of deathErmm 
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