World Cup Draw
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Topic: World Cup Draw
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Subject: World Cup Draw
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 9:39am
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3pm on Friday (lasts about an hour) BBC2. Presented by Gary Lineker! Surprised he was given the job considering he has been a vocal twitter critic of FIFA. Can you imagine the excitement and all the extra threads in here if we had made it. Anyway I’ll probably watch it even though after the Denmark game I said I wouldn’t 
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Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 10:10am
| Tomorrow will be the most depressing day since the Denmark game. |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 10:32am
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Didn't realise it was this week. To depressed to think about it. ------------- |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 10:44am
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Dont no what your talking about sure the next world cup isnt till 2022,
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Posted By: Deane
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 11:02am
| I will probably watch it but it will be depressing |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 11:07am
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Makes me annoyed thinking about it. This time last year we odds on to win the group. 4 matches to come at home. FFS ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 11:11am
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Not for me thank you . ------------- Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days . |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 12:18pm
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I'm sure I'll watch it and be enthusiastic about it next summer but I couldn't give a toss about tomorrow. Still too depressing to think about, let alone watch the draw. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: bogball88
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 12:25pm
The glum that was starting to clear has returned with a bang  |
Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 12:27pm
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Strangely I'm actually looking forward to it. ------------- "One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942. |
Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 12:55pm
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No interest in watching this tomorrow only reason I'd put myself through it would be if we were in it and had planned to book flights etc ------------- the closest i will ever come to playing for ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_7w4JyvI4 |
Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 2:00pm
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This will be a case of Jim Bowen and look at what you could've won http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmQEzSgPoZQ" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmQEzSgPoZQ And yes I will be glued to it. And yes I am going anyway but really hope I don't get to see Denmark.
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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 2:17pm
Was going to say this myself. This is going to really rub it in that we haven't made it. I'll watch it anyway. Still pondering myself whether to go anyway to Moscow for a few days and was going to wait to see how the draw goes (not booking anything before then in case England are drawn to play there - really keen to avoid their crowd after the last 'meeting' between them and the Russians). If flights are too awkward or expensive though, I'll reluctantly give it a miss and watch it at home. Are you all booked already or waiting to see what travel options are available? ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
gspain wrote:Posted By: adineen98
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 2:24pm
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If Denamrk get a relatively straightforward group it'll be all the more galling ------------- Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 2:33pm
And/ or Serbia ------------- |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 2:45pm
Serbia will be in Pot4 we'd have been in Pot 3 ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 6:10pm
Makes absolute sense tbh, he's been a leader in cleaning corruption in Fifa so having him part of the draw ensures the draw is clean. For the lads mentioning Denmark and be crucifying themselves they got an easy draw - Gary Lineker did a rehearsal today as they've done everyday and they were matched with Brazil, England and Morocco. Serbia got the slightly easier draw of Peru, Iran and Portgual
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Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 7:26pm
I'm all booked with a schedule that shouldn't change or maybe change a little. I'm not concerned re hooliganism. Putin will want this to succeed. He probably was happy re the issues in France. read into that whatever you wish. There is a terror threat but of course that could happen anywhere.
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Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 9:00pm
Don't mind how Denmark get on out there on the pitch but hoping they don't get any of the venues/cities I wanted us to get   Sochi, Moscow and St Petersburg. I'll be sick as a pike if they get some of them. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2017 at 9:07pm
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I’ve no interest in this draw Still 7 months away, and no Ireland in it, so hard to get excited about it |
Posted By: alihau41
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 10:05am
| hopefully argentina get England, beat them then reclaim what is rightfully theirs, las islas malvinas |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 10:08am
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Argentina England Sweden Australia 🤞 ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 10:58am
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I thought we want England to lose. This is the same Argentina who amazingly struggled with only 1 goalscorer in 2017. I’d actually have England as the favourites
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 11:01am
| What times the draw |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 11:01am
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England didn't get out of their group in 2014 and got knocked out by Iceland last summer. They only drew with Scotland thanks to a 93min equaliser ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 11:05am
| Or just say a far better pot 1 side who would actually annihilate England, like Brazil |
Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 11:08am
Don't think you'd get many bookies agreeing with you on England been favourites And when that 1 goalscorer is Messi that's all they need in most games ------------- the closest i will ever come to playing for ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_7w4JyvI4 |
Posted By: BrendanD88
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 12:15pm
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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 12:38pm
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How da fcuk are Poland seeded and Spain aren't ?? ------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 12:40pm
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Polskis are higher in the World Rankings ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 12:48pm
Joke, just because they had good recent from. Apart from Denmark hammering them 4-0. Group of Death Germany Spain Denmark Serbia ------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 12:50pm
Except there can only be a maximum of 2 European teams per group  ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: TonyNotJack
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 12:58pm
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Russia Peru Senegal Panama The group of Dodgy.
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 12:58pm
Fair point but a team who fails to score against Venezuela doesn’t deserve to be at a World Cup never mind be a favourite for a match imo. If only it was possible to take Messi and Mascherano but leave the other players home as they were absolutely useless throughout the entire campaign |
Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 1:02pm
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Posted By: baresi41
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 1:07pm
3pm GMT according to the BBC. Hope INGERLAND get Serbia. Ruskies will back the Serbs and batter the brits ------------- FRANCO BARESI: Always supporting the green brigade |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 1:12pm
Of course. But its not an open draw then like before. Pot One - Seeds Pot Two - European non-seeds Pot Three - African & SA non-seeds Pot Four - sh*te ------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 1:13pm
Hang on, why do you wish people to get hurt? We had the same set of arseholes 2 years ago, thankfully not around anymore.
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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 1:28pm
True. Anyway, that setup you have mentioned there has been done away with - Apart from the host nation, FIFA are now using world rankings to seed the teams but there'll still be that rule where there can only be max 2 European teams in any group and one team from any other confederation in any group (eg you won't have Nigeria and Senegal in the same group). ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 2:21pm
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What is the worst group of death considering only 2 European teams Brazil Spain Senegal Serbia or maybe Germany Uruguay Senegal Serbia A lot of dung in pot 3 & 4 ------------- |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 2:23pm
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Group of Dung Poland Peru Iran Saudi Arabia ------------- |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 2:26pm
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Yeah there's alot of dung in pot 3 and 4. An English fan should actually want to be drawn with a european team from pot 1 which means they'll draw with the dung remaining in 3 and 4 and should easily qualify in 2nd.
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Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 2:46pm
They still a team that over the course of qualification got what was required to qualify (Also note Uruguay also drew 0-0 against Venezuela in qualifying) The same team that drew with Venezuela beat teams like Uruguay,Columbia,Chile as well as drawing with brazil which is enough to have them as favourites against yet another overrated england side ------------- the closest i will ever come to playing for ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_7w4JyvI4 |
Posted By: randyrandolph
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 2:55pm
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Hoping for: England Argentina Sweden ¥Japan  |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 2:59pm
Hmm, they did that after the WC10 draw didn't they: England Algeria Slovenia Yanks Yeah, England really made that group look like a piece of pi55 alright... ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:14pm
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Seriously why do they have all this sh*te before the draw |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:21pm
I don't think this English side is overrated at all. This English side has multiple players at their very peak in the Champions League - Kane, Sterling, Walker and some major breakthroughs since as Winks. The biggest downside to them is their manager is a bigger dinosaur than ours (perhaps not that bad but definitely on a T-Rex level)
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Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:29pm
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If this current English side goes further than the 1/4 finals il be very surprised. Using players like winks to expel the overrated opinion doesn't help you much either he wouldn't get into majority of top sides imo Past England sides not only had players in them that were playing well in the champions league but had players who were winning the competition. Don't think the current squad is as good as past squads and have a manager that's handing out caps like sweets ------------- the closest i will ever come to playing for ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_7w4JyvI4 |
Posted By: Pubes
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:29pm
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Anyone else looking at who Serbia draw and thinking that would be us? If we had won our group or beat Denmark we would be pot 4 in that place and Serbia would have been pushed up to pot 3 Oh what could have been.. |
Posted By: adineen98
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:32pm
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Looking at the sides in pot 3 and 4 just makes this all the more painful ------------- Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:32pm
That's what happens when you have a manager who disregards proper preparation and tactics  ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:44pm
Spain and Portugal in the same group  ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:46pm
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Meh England get the European side in pot 1, which means they'll get the dullard teams from 3 and 4. Belgium v England should be a great game however and both should be going through, exact same can be said for Portugal v Spain.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:52pm
Russia in the group of death ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: adineen98
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:52pm
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Russia and Uruguay will breeze through Group A ------------- Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam |
Posted By: Pubes
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:52pm
| The worse opening game in world cup history. A nightmare for FIFA |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:52pm
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Jaysus defo some warm balls there |
Posted By: Pubes
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:53pm
Egypt are better than Russia |
Posted By: Darraghn92
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:53pm
| So Denmark get Peru and France (so far), and will play in Saransk, Samara and then Moscow. Serbia in with Brazil, Switzerland and Costa Rica |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:53pm
I dunno about that. Russia are an awful team, they could struggle even through that group.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:53pm
Jaysus Russia v Saudi Arabia in the opening game  ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: adineen98
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:54pm
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Denmark with France, Peru, and Australia ------------- Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:55pm
| I would of fancied us to get 2nd in that group. Balls. |
Posted By: adineen98
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:56pm
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England will somehow balls up that group ------------- Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:57pm
| That's us playing Panama sometime in June I bet since there's 2 games left on our ST's if I'm right? |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:59pm
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France Australia Peru Not Ireland ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:59pm
| Looking forward to seeing Belgium take on EnglandI give the Belgians a big chance of winning the cup |
Posted By: Pubes
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 3:59pm
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Englands group a pile of piss as usual. They should have 6 points before playing Belgium and then they play teams from that awful group H Then they'll face a decent team in 1/4 finals and go out |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:00pm
| Serbia vs Brazil in Moscow will leave our away frequent followers feeling very bitter I imagine |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:01pm
Yeah, 1 in late March and 1 in late May (probably the weekend of the Champions' League final (has been the case the past few seasons now). That draw has sickened me all over again though - I would definitely have fancied our chances of getting out of that group that Denmark have. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:01pm
Colombia and Poland would both fancy their chances against England |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:01pm
Managed by Martinez? No chance ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:02pm
Fixed - you know it's gonna happen. ------------- The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!! |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:03pm
"Saudi Arabia in opening game
ITV can have that." From BBC website ------------- |
Posted By: Dalymount79
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:04pm
Will be Germany or Brazil in 1/4s if those win their groups and progress to 1/4s. |
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:05pm
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When do the fixtures come out?
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:06pm
There are a few things I would not expect to see in my time here on planet earth - Roberto Martinez winning the f*cking World Cup is one of them. Not a hope.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:08pm
Like Ireland they are already out ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: The White Cafu
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:12pm
| Jesus the quality there looks a lot worse than previous WC's.. I would have given us a reasonably good chance of getting out of groups A, C, E, F, G or H there. |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:13pm
He's a lite version of Marc Wilmots, he's still a spoofer but not as bad.
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:14pm
A lot of dull groups in that tournament. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: TonyNotJack
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:15pm
| At least the watching millions are spared what would have been the all time world cup classic battle of the football artisans Ireland v Australia. |
Posted By: baresi41
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:16pm
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NIT in America looks better choice. Italy, Holland, Ireland, and Chile in the group of death. ------------- FRANCO BARESI: Always supporting the green brigade |
Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:19pm
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There actually isn't that many good games to look forward to. Portugal v Spain Belgium v England Germany v Sweden What else?
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:26pm
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Saudi Iranians v Egypt ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:32pm
Argentina v Croatia Brazil v Serbia but agree, not a lot to wet the appetite. ------------- |
Posted By: KING-CON
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:48pm
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We'll probably have friendlies against Panama and Tunisia.
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Posted By: grannyrule
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 4:58pm
They would be perfect games to blood players tbh ------------- The only way is up |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 5:20pm
 Yeah because Italy, Uruguay and Costa Rica last time around was such a weak group........... ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 5:21pm
Agree |
Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 5:24pm
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England to play Poland, Senegal, Japan or Columbia. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 6:38pm
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Death,taxes and England not beating Panama ------------- PM me for all forum moderation queries. |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 6:43pm
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Toughest Group. Since The World Rankings were introduced in 1993, the toughest group in the 7 WC tournaments finals (1994 to 2018) was the following, based on countries FIFA World Rankings. 1994 - Group E - rankings in brackets: Mexico (17) Rep Ire (13) Italy (1) Norway (5) Avg ranking: 9 |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 7:19pm
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Just had a look at the timings for the matches in Russia. 2pm 3pm 5pm 6pm 6pm seems to be the latest kick off. Not great for watching matches in the boozer. My suggestion is that every Euro’s should be held in Western Europe, therefore guaranteeing some 7pm and 8pm matches almost every night. Every WC should be held in Western Europe, Africa or in the America’s. To Asia and Oceania, sorry but that’s just the way it is, you can have all the Olympics and Rugby World Cups if you want. |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 7:27pm
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4 matches on the 1st Saturday. 11am,2pm 5pm and 8pm ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 7:34pm
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1 match out of 64 at 7pm. The latest ko of any other match 6pm? |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 7:46pm
Apologies. 1 match at 8pm. Good few matches each evening at 7pm. |
Posted By: Neil Armstrong
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 10:27pm
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frankie boyle on twitter England’s group features an unprincipled tax haven, a country notorious for paedophilia, and a place where women are denied basic human rights, playing against Tunisia, Panama and Belgium ------------- Ulster Champions 2020 our 40th Title. Take that all ye Moanaghan ***ts! |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 10:35pm
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Surely the group of death would have been DENMARK England And Tunisia Holland ------------- AKA pedantic kunt |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 10:40pm
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