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Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

Analysis: Outstanding Will Smallbone transforms Stoke and stakes claim for Irish call-up https://the42.ie/5835857

Looks like Smallbone is playing in a role where he can compete with Knight and, to a lesser extent, Molumby for a spot in the senior side if he can build on the weekend. 

Looked great for the 21s so allying club form with those performances gives him a real chance. 

His best position is central and linking midfield to attack, really excellent on the ball and a player to get excited about. 

If he can continue similar performances with Stoke I'd say have him in the seniors and promote costelloe to the u21s. Not exactly like for like but the u21s Is there as a step to the seniors.


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Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

Analysis: Outstanding Will Smallbone transforms Stoke and stakes claim for Irish call-up https://the42.ie/5835857

Looks like Smallbone is playing in a role where he can compete with Knight and, to a lesser extent, Molumby for a spot in the senior side if he can build on the weekend. 

Looked great for the 21s so allying club form with those performances gives him a real chance. 



Crawford has a big call to make next month when picking his midfield for the playoff. We looked more balanced and threatening when Smallbone played deeper instead of Kilkenny. Would like to see him go back to the way we lined up against Bosnia with one of Coventry or Kilkenny in midfield rather than both starting.
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Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

Analysis: Outstanding Will Smallbone transforms Stoke and stakes claim for Irish call-up https://the42.ie/5835857

Looks like Smallbone is playing in a role where he can compete with Knight and, to a lesser extent, Molumby for a spot in the senior side if he can build on the weekend. 

Looked great for the 21s so allying club form with those performances gives him a real chance. 

His best position is central and linking midfield to attack, really excellent on the ball and a player to get excited about. 

If he can continue similar performances with Stoke I'd say have him in the seniors and promote costelloe to the u21s. Not exactly like for like but the u21s Is there as a step to the seniors.



I remember thinking this exact thing when all three started the Bosnia match, and we looked a lot more balanced versus Montenegro with a central pair of Smallbone & Coventry (with Noss pushed on) than we did with a Kilkenny/Coventry centre and Smallbone pushed on (v Bosnia).
The setup v Montenegro seemed all more comfortable and effective.

Now we won both matches comfortably, but Israel gonna be a bigger hill to get over.

If his form continues, I'd have Smallbone in the seniors (ahead of Hourihane), and the 21's can go with a Kilkenny/Coventry pair with Noss or whomever advanced.
Hodge in reserve.

Costelloe 100% in the squad if he continues getting gametime in the Championship.  No brainer.





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Lad would likely be playing for Southampton only for injuries holding him back! Just pray to the gods he will get an injury free season now and regular football. If he can stand out for Stoke he will get his chance at Southampton with experience under his belt too!

That's if Southampton don't wind up getting relegated! Club could find the season quite long!
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Lad would likely be playing for Southampton only for injuries holding him back! Just pray to the gods he will get an injury free season now and regular football. If he can stand out for Stoke he will get his chance at Southampton with experience under his belt too!

That's if Southampton don't wind up getting relegated! Club could find the season quite long!


Wouldnt be entirely shocked if he was to be recalled for the second half of the season if he keeps up the performances and stays clear of injury.
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Watching the Stoke v Middlesbrough game to see how smallbone is getting on.

Middlesbrough far and away the better team with smallbone playing Central midfield being largely a passenger in the game. But he's not the only Stoke player not really.getting into the game.

Hes covering a lot of ground bit misplaced most of the few passes he's made.

End of the first half he had a good shot on target from a tight angle but that's all to report in this half. 

Hopefully gets better in the second half 
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Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

Watching the Stoke v Middlesbrough game to see how smallbone is getting on.

Middlesbrough far and away the better team with smallbone playing Central midfield being largely a passenger in the game. But he's not the only Stoke player not really.getting into the game.

Hes covering a lot of ground bit misplaced most of the few passes he's made.

End of the first half he had a good shot on target from a tight angle but that's all to report in this half. 

Hopefully gets better in the second half 
What channel are you watching it on 
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Originally posted by Liam Green Liam Green wrote:

Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

Watching the Stoke v Middlesbrough game to see how smallbone is getting on.

Middlesbrough far and away the better team with smallbone playing Central midfield being largely a passenger in the game. But he's not the only Stoke player not really.getting into the game.

Hes covering a lot of ground bit misplaced most of the few passes he's made.

End of the first half he had a good shot on target from a tight angle but that's all to report in this half. 

Hopefully gets better in the second half 
What channel are you watching it on 

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Originally posted by djhegzy djhegzy wrote:

Originally posted by Liam Green Liam Green wrote:

Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

Watching the Stoke v Middlesbrough game to see how smallbone is getting on.

Middlesbrough far and away the better team with smallbone playing Central midfield being largely a passenger in the game. But he's not the only Stoke player not really.getting into the game.

Hes covering a lot of ground bit misplaced most of the few passes he's made.

End of the first half he had a good shot on target from a tight angle but that's all to report in this half. 

Hopefully gets better in the second half 
What channel are you watching it on 

Cheers for that 
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watched the first 15 mins of second half, stoke are awful. watched the first half of west brom v cardiff, much better game, great we have Irish players in nearly all the championship matches
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Yeah, Middlesbrough the much better team without being that good. Not obviously clear why kilkenny can't get a game to be honest.
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Starting today.
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Plenty of Irish interest in this one - Hendrick and Long both starting for Reading, Bonham and Smallbone for Stoke. Kilkenny is injured apparently, wonder will he be back in time for the under 21s.
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Watching the Stoke vs. Reading game. 

First half was ok from an Irish perspective.

Smallbone getting a good bit of the ball for Stoke, keeping it simple in possession and had a few crosses into the box that were cleared by defenders. Doing his defensive work very well resulting is winning the ball a couple of time. Really good movement off the ball.

Hendrick similar to smallbone in terms of performance, always available in offering for the ball.

Shane Long has been quiet but did miss a really god chance from six yards out, just didn't get his feet right quick enough. 

For what it's worth, Liam Deleap doesn't look ready for this level yet, at 19 he's in a very similar position and age as when parrott went to millwall. 
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Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

For what it's worth, Liam Deleap doesn't look ready for this level yet, at 19 he's in a very similar position and age as when parrott went to millwall. 

Interesting to see Delap today, first time seeing him playing senior football. To be honest he was miles off it, doesn't look any more ready for the Championship at 19 than Parrott looked when he went to Millwall at 18. Being English and a Man City youth player scoring loads of PL2 goals leads to the hype but there was absolutely nothing of substance to back it up. And that was against one of the weakest Championship teams, on paper at least. Looked like he should be down in League 1 or League 2 learning the game.

Probably relevant in terms of Evan Ferguson who is 18 months younger than Delap - I'd like to see him go out on loan in January, but League 1 would be plenty for him for now. See how he gets on at that level before sending him anywhere near the Championship.

Neither Smallbone or Hendrick have stood out today, both fine but no more than that. Nothing to suggest that Hendrick should be starting against Scotland or that Smallbone should be anywhere other than the Under 21 squad for now.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

For what it's worth, Liam Deleap doesn't look ready for this level yet, at 19 he's in a very similar position and age as when parrott went to millwall. 


Interesting to see Delap today, first time seeing him playing senior football. To be honest he was miles off it, doesn't look any more ready for the Championship at 19 than Parrott looked when he went to Millwall at 18. Being English and a Man City youth player scoring loads of PL2 goals leads to the hype but there was absolutely nothing of substance to back it up. And that was against one of the weakest Championship teams, on paper at least. Looked like he should be down in League 1 or League 2 learning the game.

Probably relevant in terms of Evan Ferguson who is 18 months younger than Delap - I'd like to see him go out on loan in January, but League 1 would be plenty for him for now. See how he gets on at that level before sending him anywhere near the Championship.

Neither Smallbone or Hendrick have stood out today, both fine but no more than that. Nothing to suggest that Hendrick should be starting against Scotland or that Smallbone should be anywhere other than the Under 21 squad for now.


With the intensity you'd want your midfield to bring to the Scotland game wouldn't be starting Hendrick but he's gonna be a good sub to bring on in the second half.

When lads are tired and he can pass it around a bit and how you'll want someone that can hang on to the ball when trying to retain possession late in the game. Think Browne would be another great guy to come off the bench with around a half hour to play but you also know if he were to start he'll put a shift in and could pop up with a goal. Probably the only midfielder you'd say could pop up with a goal and with tired legs in second half might find more space in the final third.
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I dont think its unreasonable to see smallbone promoted to the seniors now, on the basis he continues to start games in the championship. 

Purely lack of options kind of calls our hand.

Hourihane - not pulling up trees in L1... Knight is now playing RWB in league1.

Hendrick starting games and doing ok.

Cullen playing well and guaranteed a start.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

For what it's worth, Liam Deleap doesn't look ready for this level yet, at 19 he's in a very similar position and age as when parrott went to millwall. 

Interesting to see Delap today, first time seeing him playing senior football. To be honest he was miles off it, doesn't look any more ready for the Championship at 19 than Parrott looked when he went to Millwall at 18. Being English and a Man City youth player scoring loads of PL2 goals leads to the hype but there was absolutely nothing of substance to back it up. And that was against one of the weakest Championship teams, on paper at least. Looked like he should be down in League 1 or League 2 learning the game.

Probably relevant in terms of Evan Ferguson who is 18 months younger than Delap - I'd like to see him go out on loan in January, but League 1 would be plenty for him for now. See how he gets on at that level before sending him anywhere near the Championship.

Neither Smallbone or Hendrick have stood out today, both fine but no more than that. Nothing to suggest that Hendrick should be starting against Scotland or that Smallbone should be anywhere other than the Under 21 squad for now.

Armstrong is an interesting comparison. Went and got the National League experience with two different clubs. He has less expectation and isn't starting, granted, but is managing to come in and make an impact for QPR now, without having even gone through the two divisions in between. 

Different type of player maybe but it shows that maybe starting higher in the food chain isn't always better. Particularly for very young players i.e. 19 and under. 
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