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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

No hope.

Need to rebuild from now. We may be better off planning for the long term particularly in midfield and attack. Defensively we're in good shape.

Play molumby, connolly and cullen as first choice. They still may not be as experienced as whelan and Hendrick but they will improve where as whelan, hendrick, mcclean are only going to get worse.

Mick has one or two games left, to get us to the euros. Then he's gone. If there is ever a time for a complete rebuild in international football (I'm not sure many teams do it), it is not in a playoff scenario.
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Depends on who we get and if we are home in final or not.
If this moving to A works out, then potentially we would have Bulgaria at home in semi and Iceland at home in final
. Iceland we know are tough but at home it’s at least a 50/50 chance
Would iceland be at home?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jimmykeno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 6:35pm
Unfortunately  we have no chance really. We've  had two decent away wins in my lifetime, doubt we'll get 2 in the space of 4 days. Yes I know theres a chance the final could be at home if we get that far, but even that is highly unlikely 
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Originally posted by Jimmykeno Jimmykeno wrote:

Unfortunately  we have no chance really. We've  had two decent away wins in my lifetime, doubt we'll get 2 in the space of 4 days. Yes I know theres a chance the final could be at home if we get that far, but even that is highly unlikely 

We have had more good away wins than we have had away defeats in the last three years (bet Wales and Austria away, Switzerland was the only away defeat in a competitive game?).

I don't know if I fancy us to qualify or not. A lot will boil down to who we draw and whether the second leg is home or away. It's a big ask winning two away games back to back, but on the other hand most teams will probably struggle to beat us. We have lost games to Switzerland, Austria and Serbia in the last couple of years but I don't think we will come up against teams as good as them.

Slovakia and Northern Ireland would struggle to beat us, Bosnia might be a bit more capable but they don't seem like the Bosnia of 2015 who we drew with and bet. Wales would be the one to avoid.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote t_rAndy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Depends on who we get and if we are home in final or not.
If this moving to A works out, then potentially we would have Bulgaria at home in semi and Iceland at home in final
. Iceland we know are tough but at home it’s at least a 50/50 chance
Would iceland be at home?

It’s not yet clear what way UEFA are setting up the play off. 
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Originally posted by CillDara CillDara wrote:

Originally posted by Jimmykeno Jimmykeno wrote:

Unfortunately  we have no chance really. We've  had two decent away wins in my lifetime, doubt we'll get 2 in the space of 4 days. Yes I know theres a chance the final could be at home if we get that far, but even that is highly unlikely 

We have had more good away wins than we have had away defeats in the last three years (bet Wales and Austria away, Switzerland was the only away defeat in a competitive game?).

I don't know if I fancy us to qualify or not. A lot will boil down to who we draw and whether the second leg is home or away. It's a big ask winning two away games back to back, but on the other hand most teams will probably struggle to beat us. We have lost games to Switzerland, Austria and Serbia in the last couple of years but I don't think we will come up against teams as good as them.

Slovakia and Northern Ireland would struggle to beat us, Bosnia might be a bit more capable but they don't seem like the Bosnia of 2015 who we drew with and bet. Wales would be the one to avoid.

100%.

People think we're losing game left right and centre away from home our record since 2014 in competitive games is played 18 lost 4 Scotland in Glasgow, Poland in Warsaw, Wales in Cardiff during the Nations League and Switzerland away in this campaign

We have won 6 Gibraltar twice really but I've included it doesn't count in the 6, Moldova probably the same, but we've beaten Austria, Wales and Georgia in those last 4 years which were big results.

That leaves 8 draws against - Denmark 3 times, Bosnia,Serbia, Georgia twice and Germany.

As much as people don't like the way we play and think we should play better football we are a bloody tough team to play against.

The four teams listed above won't want to play us.
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Cant see really if i am honest 
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whoever we play weren’t good enough to qualify directly and have lost more games than we have in the qualifiers- that’s enough to have some confidence we can qualify.
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Depends on who we get and if we are home in final or not.
If this moving to A works out, then potentially we would have Bulgaria at home in semi and Iceland at home in final
. Iceland we know are tough but at home it’s at least a 50/50 chance
Would iceland be at home?

It’s not yet clear what way UEFA are setting up the play off. 
The media seem to think we can't go to Pot A. I can't understand why. If there's 5 pot B teams, it could be an even draw, if we're picked we go to Pot A and Hungary to Pot B? 
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If we get Slovakia/ Bosnia away and a home final I would rate our chances at less than 50%....

We may need to win 2 matches on Peno’s after two draws. 

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I think we can win the draws 0:0 or 1:1
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Crosby87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Cant see really if i am honest 

At all? They're asking if you think Ireland will make the playoffs. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Left foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by Crosby87 Crosby87 wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Cant see really if i am honest 

At all? They're asking if you think Ireland will make the playoffs. 

A cheap shot Crosby but it did make me laugh 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SuperDave84 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 11:58pm
Our last ten competitive away games against similar opposition:
Switzerland 0-2
Denmark 1-1
Denmark 0-0
Wales 1-4
Denmark 0-0
Wales 1-0
Austria 1-0
Serbia 2-2
Bosnia 1-1
Poland 1-2

2 wins, 5 draws, 3 losses. That's marginally below 50/50, which is about fair.

Our home games are actually worse (1 win, 6 draws, 3 losses).


Edited by SuperDave84 - 20 Nov 2019 at 12:05am
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As many have said above think having knowledge that there isthe home final is important, especially going into the semi final
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pre Madonna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2019 at 7:28am
Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Our last ten competitive away games against similar opposition:
Switzerland 0-2
Denmark 1-1
Denmark 0-0
Wales 1-4
Denmark 0-0
Wales 1-0
Austria 1-0
Serbia 2-2
Bosnia 1-1
Poland 1-2

2 wins, 5 draws, 3 losses. That's marginally below 50/50, which is about fair.

Our home games are actually worse (1 win, 6 draws, 3 losses).
2 wins in 10 is marginally below 50%? Do you work for the Tories?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The O'Shea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2019 at 8:14am
We don't have to "win" in 90 minutes though, we just have to avoid losing, which the above would suggest we're reasonably good at.
We're decent enough..
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

We don't have to "win" in 90 minutes though, we just have to avoid losing, which the above would suggest we're reasonably good at.
Firstly, that doesn’t make the figure any more accurate. Secondly, I can’t see us winning a penalty shootout. We do not have the mentality needed and I certainly don’t subscribe to the ‘lottery ‘ theory.
If we get to penalties and lose, Mick will talk about it as a great performance and all the rest of it. The players know that and will fall back on it. I imagine he subscribes to the lottery theory too.
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