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Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

The main caveat to these recent results is that Estonia and Belarus are very poor sides...            ...two sides that are worse then Georgia in my opinion. 
If the FIFA Rankings are anything to go by, they're all much of a muchness.

Belarus are currently 81, Georgia are 94 and Estonia 96.

And their historic averages are Belarus 83, Georgia 91 and Estonia 92.

As for NI's recent performances, I really think Estonia took NI by surprise by playing a very aggressive, energetic 4-2-4, which really negated our style in the first half. (Basically their front four never let our back four and gk build the play from deep)

But Michael then made tactical changes and substitutions in the 2nd, which turned it round. The weather was exceptionally hot and humid, and Estonia are just a couple of months into their (summer) season, so it was a real tribute to our boys' commitment and effort that we finished the stronger.

Re. the 8-0 hammering by the Germans, I can only conclude that Estonia had thought they were going to get something out of their game against us, but were so sickened by the late turnaround that they lost all hope of getting anything out of the Group and are "concentrating on the League"?

As for Belarus, in some ways they're not a bad side (they have a v'good, physical back four), but the reason they're not a good side either is because their finishing is if anything, even worse than NI's!

Anyhow, like the rest of the GAWA, I was enormously heartened by the two displays, since the effort, commitment, organisation and progressive playing style (two 2nd halves, at least) shines out.

We must still be (long) odds-against any hope of scraping in in 2nd place in the Group, but so long as we have our "big" players all available, I believe we can at least give the Germans and Dutch a game, home and away. 


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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

The main caveat to these recent results is that Estonia and Belarus are very poor sides...            ...two sides that are worse then Georgia in my opinion. 
If the FIFA Rankings are anything to go by, they're all much of a muchness.

Belarus are currently 81, Georgia are 94 and Estonia 96.

And their historic averages are Belarus 83, Georgia 91 and Estonia 92.

As for NI's recent performances, I really think Estonia took NI by surprise by playing a very aggressive, energetic 4-2-4, which really negated our style in the first half. (Basically their front four never let our back four and gk build the play from deep)

But Michael then made tactical changes and substitutions in the 2nd, which turned it round. The weather was exceptionally hot and humid, and Estonia are just a couple of months into their (summer) season, so it was a real tribute to our boys' commitment and effort that we finished the stronger.

Re. the 8-0 hammering by the Germans, I can only conclude that Estonia had thought they were going to get something out of their game against us, but were so sickened by the late turnaround that they lost all hope of getting anything out of the Group and are "concentrating on the League"?

As for Belarus, in some ways they're not a bad side (they have a v'good, physical back four), but the reason they're not a good side either is because their finishing is if anything, even worse than NI's!

Anyhow, like the rest of the GAWA, I was enormously heartened by the two displays, since the effort, commitment, organisation and progressive playing style (two 2nd halves, at least) shines out.

We must still be (long) odds-against any hope of scraping in in 2nd place in the Group, but so long as we have our "big" players all available, I believe we can at least give the Germans and Dutch a game, home and away. 

Yah yah never mind all that. 

Had you any luck with any of the cute wee blonds in your away support in Belarus? 

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Yah yah never mind all that. 

Had you any luck with any of the cute wee blonds in your away support in Belarus? 
How do you know I'm not one of our cute wee blondes myself? Wink

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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

The main caveat to these recent results is that Estonia and Belarus are very poor sides...            ...two sides that are worse then Georgia in my opinion. 
If the FIFA Rankings are anything to go by, they're all much of a muchness.

Belarus are currently 81, Georgia are 94 and Estonia 96.

And their historic averages are Belarus 83, Georgia 91 and Estonia 92.

As for NI's recent performances, I really think Estonia took NI by surprise by playing a very aggressive, energetic 4-2-4, which really negated our style in the first half. (Basically their front four never let our back four and gk build the play from deep)

But Michael then made tactical changes and substitutions in the 2nd, which turned it round. The weather was exceptionally hot and humid, and Estonia are just a couple of months into their (summer) season, so it was a real tribute to our boys' commitment and effort that we finished the stronger.

Re. the 8-0 hammering by the Germans, I can only conclude that Estonia had thought they were going to get something out of their game against us, but were so sickened by the late turnaround that they lost all hope of getting anything out of the Group and are "concentrating on the League"?

As for Belarus, in some ways they're not a bad side (they have a v'good, physical back four), but the reason they're not a good side either is because their finishing is if anything, even worse than NI's!

Anyhow, like the rest of the GAWA, I was enormously heartened by the two displays, since the effort, commitment, organisation and progressive playing style (two 2nd halves, at least) shines out.

We must still be (long) odds-against any hope of scraping in in 2nd place in the Group, but so long as we have our "big" players all available, I believe we can at least give the Germans and Dutch a game, home and away. 

I wouldn't bet against NI taking a point or two off Germany and NL. Just because you lost 3-1 to Germany at home last time, doesn't mean this will be repeated again.....football can be full of surprises.
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:


Yah yah never mind all that. 

Had you any luck with any of the cute wee blonds in your away support in Belarus? 
How do you know I'm not one of our cute wee blondes myself? Wink

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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

@Territorial do you rate Conor McLaughlin?
Yep - as I said on the Sunderland thread, he could be a very good signingfor any League One club.

It's funny, he was always rated as a lesser prospect than his kid brother Ryan, who was at Liverpool and highly regarded.

But for whatever reason, Ryan's career never took off (signed for Rochdale in January).

Meanwhile, Conor seemed to just get on with things. He had made a breakthrough with PNE, then surprised people by dropping down a division to Lge Two to join Fleetwood Town, just promoted to the EFL for the first time in their history.

However, from what I can tell, Fleetwood's ambitious owner was at that stage spending serious money on wages, so Conor will almost certainly have been earning more money.

He was a regular at Fleetwood, inc the team that got promoted to League One - their 6th promotion in 10 years. Anyhow, after a few years, the owner changed course and started putting his money into the stadium, rather than players' wages, and Conor moved on to Millwall, for their return to the Championship.

I really don't know why it didn't work out there, but from having seen him play a good few times for NI, I've no doubt he has the basic ability to play for a lower half Championship team.

And although he recently lost his NI place at RB to Michael Smith (Hearts), that may just because Conor was lacking match practice - Michael O'Neill seems to have rated him highly enough, and he doesn't normally tolerate wasters.

Btw, he's fairly quick and with decent control, making him very much an attacking RB, should that be what Sunderland need.



P.S. I don't mean to make out he's a mercenary over Fleetwood etc. Tbh, there's very little money in lower league football and he really can't be blamed for maximising his earning potential the way he has. Certainly made more of his (lesser) talent than Ryan.
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Early days in the season but after Linfield lost 2 4 at home to Coleraine yesterday they are currently eighth in league Crusaders are top.
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Early days in the season but after Linfield lost 2 4 at home to Coleraine yesterday they are currently eighth in league Crusaders are top.

very early days as you say.  Linfield have played only 2 games as the Ballymena match was postponed due to Europe.  It was a heavy defeat possbly caused by having one eye on Thursdays Europa League tie.  However they wouldn't want to let the Crues get too far ahead.  
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