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The deal itself violates a part of the Good Friday Agreement - A single NI party cannot do negotiations alone 
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

An extra billion quid in the back pocket. Happy days for the unionists.


I always felt that would be enough. Given NI's reliance on public funds I'm not surprised that the "Almighty Dollar", was enough for them to play ball.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-40402184 

Northern Ireland will receive an extra £1bn over the next two years as part of the deal that will see the Democratic Unionist Party's 10 MPs back Theresa May's minority government in Commons votes.

DUP leader Arlene Foster said the "wide-ranging" pact was "good for Northern Ireland and the UK" - so where will the money be spent?

The heart of the financial package is infrastructure spending - £400m of it over two years.

That is a significant sum given that Northern Ireland's annual infrastructure budget is about £1bn.

The deal specifically mentions the York Street Interchange, a project to ease congestion where three major roads meet in Belfast.

It is expected to cost about £150m, so there should be plenty left over for other major projects.

They could include a planned transport hub in the centre of Belfast and other major roads schemes like the completion of the A5 or A6.

On top of the £400m, there is a further £150m for ultra-fast broadband.

This was a project which was already being scoped by the Department of the Economy before the collapse of Stormont.

It is ultimately about improving the connectivity of rural businesses.

Previous Stormont/Westminster deals have also included infrastructure but they typically involved allowing Stormont to borrow more.

This time it is cold, hard, no-strings-attached cash.

Health and education

The money for health and education is more modest - given that a figure of £1bn for health alone was being mentioned during the negotiations.


Where will the money go?

  • Health: A minimum of £250m, with £200m directed to health service transformation and £50m towards mental health provision. It will also receive £50m to "address immediate pressures"
  • Education: £50m to "address immediate pressures"
  • Infrastructure: £400m for projects including delivery the York Street Interchange, plus £150m to provide ultra-fast broadband across Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland's capital budget is currently about £1bn per year.
  • Deprivation: £100m over five years targeted to deprived communities
  • VAT and Air Passenger Duty tax: Agreed to further consultation
  • Corporation tax: Agreed to work towards devolving the tax to Stormont
  • City deals and Enterprise Zones: Agreed to "comprehensive and ambitious set" of city deals and "limited number" of Enterprise Zones

There is a minimum of £250m for health and and we can assume it will get about half the "immediate pressures" money, bringing it to a total of £300m.

That will help ease the problems with waiting lists and give the system some breathing space ahead of a major reform programme.

The "immediate pressures" money for education (about £50m) will go some way to easing a growing row with head teachers who have said they will not impose any more cuts.

There is also £100m to be spent on deprived communities over five years.

Social investment

It will be interesting to see what the delivery mechanism for that money will be.

Stormont's Social Investment Fund, which was also designed to help those communities, has been mired in controversy.

Another part of this deal is to give flexibility to a previously agreed £500m fund for investment in shared education and housing projects.

Stormont has struggled to spend this money, in its first year just £3m of a £50m allocation was spent.

So its is possible that the new flexibility will allow all that money to go into general infrastructure spending.



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Was this the magic money tree the Tories kept mentioning?Ermm
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Osborne continuing to rip the piss out of May


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Originally posted by Darraghn92 Darraghn92 wrote:

Was this the magic money tree the Tories kept mentioning?Ermm


As poor a deal as I consider this to be, this figure is a long way from the Corbyn magic money tree. However it remains an expensive deal, with more to come at future points, which illustrates how much the tail has wagged the dog in this instance, and is concerning for the future.
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Time for Labour to re-focus now. They have lost, narrowly, but a loss it still is. No amount of protests and outrage will change this or immature bring down the Government nonsense from McDonnell. A 1 million strong march against the end result of a democratic process is counter productive and will put severe strains on a city whose police force are already stretched. The Tories and DUP will do a damn fine job of bringing down their own Government anyway.

They had a major moral victory but this is a huge opportunity to oust this shambles that will be the Tory/DUP marriage with the weakest Tory Leader in a long time. They have momentum and appear to be united after years of internal bickering. Getting the message and vision across to Scotland will certainly help. They could also do with targeting the demographic who class Corbyn and McDonnell as traitors and friend of terrorists and only vote Tory as they are not Labour and would previously have voted UKIP. They may be a bit thick but there are lots of them over here.

 
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DUP have done a good deal for the people of Northern Ireland 
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

DUP have done a good deal for the people of Northern Ireland 

Yep they have, like breaking the Good Friday agreement risking putting country back in turmoil.
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£50m towards mental health provision. 

You would think they would like after their voters better than that!
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

The deal itself violates a part of the Good Friday Agreement - A single NI party cannot do negotiations alone 


Presumably that only applies in the context of Stormont? The power sharing arrangement wouldn't permit unilateral discussion. However, Westminster is different and it is up to each party to perform as they see fit, and to engage as they see fit, and they are free to form Westminster alliances?

I'm absolutely open to correction on this.

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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

The deal itself violates a part of the Good Friday Agreement - A single NI party cannot do negotiations alone 


Presumably that only applies in the context of Stormont? The power sharing arrangement wouldn't permit unilateral discussion. However, Westminster is different and it is up to each party to perform as they see fit, and to engage as they see fit, and they are free to form Westminster alliances?   

I'm absolutely open to correction on this.
    You're most likely right!One would like to think that the English voter will see what kind of spongers these unionists are.The block grant already far exceeds what they pay to the Exchequer.As usual,the English have to pay for their loyalty.The Tories are such a bunch of bastads that they would pay for the support of such an embarrassing bunch, just to hold on to power.Can't help thinking the arrangement will bite the tories in the backend
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/27/queens-income-rises-to-82m-to-cover-cost-of-buckingham-palace-works

How much fire-proof cladding could you buy for 82 million? These benefit cheats are really destroying Britain.
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

DUP have done a good deal for the people of Northern Ireland 


What a load of bollocks. DUP have done a deal for themselves, and still have May willingly bent over a stool.

Walking around like peacocks and be dam sure where the money will be spent. Plus they'll be calling the shots up north with May on the end of the phone.

Good deal? Good one.

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The money is going to the executive so both sides will get money.
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

The money is going to the executive so both sides will get money.


That you Terrie?

Maybe your right.

Or probably like cash for ash scheme that paid farmers from a certain persuasion upwards of half a billion pounds. Presided over by who, Arlene Foster.


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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

The money is going to the executive so both sides will get money.
 
a bit like one of the social funds where the list of recipients was heavily OO hall /loyalist band  with the odd sprinkling of a GAA club
 
if they can sort out the M1/M2 junction great but long term  - as I said before nobody likes to be blackmailed and if you think 1 billion isn't going to be deducted from future expenditure from a Westminster cheque then dream on.
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