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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Self-policed when a last minute winner goes in?LOL 
The arguments against all those things opening up, as well as for them,they would argue necessary economic risk, are valid; however, these are largely irrelevant here as no  sensible government is going to sanction fifteen thousand people going to one place for a football match or any other form of recreation or entertainment. 
That's before UEFA or FIFA get involved and possibly even the FAI themselves. I can't imagine there is anything in it, other than losses, for them to risk regular supporters health to open up a fifty thousand seater stadium for less than a third of it to come in. I would imagine they are better off playing it in front of nobody at all.

Outside of all of that, I can't for the life of me understand why you would want to go! I know people can get in my tits, certainly as individuals, but the great thing about live sport, especially football, is the shared passion and being part of a crowd. Not part of a crowd keeping two metres away and avoiding each other, even if that is what those running the game would prefer.

You're as likely to contract an STD as you are Covid-19 when a last minute winner goes in in Lansdowne!
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Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

At how much a ticket? Both factors are equally important. 
It costs between €40,000 to €120,000 to open Croke Park. I’d say 40,000 to have one stand open, right up to the whole stadium for €120,000.

LGFA have to sell 26,000 tickets at an average price of €15 to open up Croke Park.
Each Club must buy 8 tickets at €25 each. There are approx 1,100 clubs.
Anything less is loss making.
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Originally posted by wicklowrunner wicklowrunner wrote:

Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

At how much a ticket? Both factors are equally important. 
It costs between €40,000 to €120,000 to open Croke Park. I’d say 40,000 to have one stand open, right up to the whole stadium for €120,000.

LGFA have to sell 26,000 tickets at an average price of €15 to open up Croke Park.
Each Club must buy 8 tickets at €25 each. There are approx 1,100 clubs.
Anything less is loss making.
LGFA is not part of the GAA so different rules probably apply to them therefor the extra charges. The figures I used are from Croke Park and a GAA official.
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Its not just STs that would need to be accommodated, theres Club Ireland, Vantage Club, sponsors, and of course ‘other’ box and premium seat holder (thanks JD).

Anyway, point is that its a lot more than 15k spread around.
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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Self-policed when a last minute winner goes in?LOL 
The arguments against all those things opening up, as well as for them,they would argue necessary economic risk, are valid; however, these are largely irrelevant here as no  sensible government is going to sanction fifteen thousand people going to one place for a football match or any other form of recreation or entertainment. 
That's before UEFA or FIFA get involved and possibly even the FAI themselves. I can't imagine there is anything in it, other than losses, for them to risk regular supporters health to open up a fifty thousand seater stadium for less than a third of it to come in. I would imagine they are better off playing it in front of nobody at all.

Outside of all of that, I can't for the life of me understand why you would want to go! I know people can get in my tits, certainly as individuals, but the great thing about live sport, especially football, is the shared passion and being part of a crowd. Not part of a crowd keeping two metres away and avoiding each other, even if that is what those running the game would prefer.

You're as likely to contract an STD as you are Covid-19 when a last minute winner goes in in Lansdowne!
 

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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Its not just STs that would need to be accommodated, theres Club Ireland, Vantage Club, sponsors, and of course ‘other’ box and premium seat holder (thanks JD).

Anyway, point is that its a lot more than 15k spread around.
 
I don't know the breakdown in figure but I doubt the combined figure is more than 15K
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Its not just STs that would need to be accommodated, theres Club Ireland, Vantage Club, sponsors, and of course ‘other’ box and premium seat holder (thanks JD).

Anyway, point is that its a lot more than 15k spread around.
 
I don't know the breakdown in figure but I doubt the combined figure is more than 15K
theres just over 14k STs but for the rest Im not sure either. Based on STs closer to 20k would be my guess in total incl all the others. Of course youd have to consider would everybody ‘entitled’ to a ticket actually go, would sponsors take up all their entitlements etc. All ifs and buts on that front

Regardless though, even at 15k max. The requisite number of stewards would be required inside and outside the stadium for that crowd (not sure of the ratio) Gardai, First Aiders, Also internal staff such as bars catering, do they open?  Again lots of ifs and but but its certainly more complex than saying n 15k supporters must sit x amount of seats apart...unfortunately.

Think someone else mentioned about if say a Cat C holder was moved to Cat A, what about the lad that paid more for their seat etc. Non issue IMO. Event organisers are entitled to move people if required for operational issues.
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http://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/nations-league-confusion-as-uefa-organises-congested-calendar

Supposed rumours of UEFA shortening the NL group fixtures to 3 games instead of 6 according to this Greek sports site. It should be clarified at their next meeting on the May 27th. Can't see it happening myself.

Even if it goes ahead in September 6 games behind closed doors is fairly depressing. 

The triple headers suggestion isn't a bad idea imo. It frees up a month and if it was in normal times a triple header would be a lot handier getting time off work for away games rather than spacing 3 of them in 3 months.  There'd be a double away header in one of those international windows. 




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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

http://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/nations-league-confusion-as-uefa-organises-congested-calendar

Supposed rumours of UEFA shortening the NL group fixtures to 3 games instead of 6 according to this Greek sports site. It should be clarified at their next meeting on the May 27th. Can't see it happening myself.

Even if it goes ahead in September 6 games behind closed doors is fairly depressing. 

The triple headers suggestion isn't a bad idea imo. It frees up a month and if it was in normal times a triple header would be a lot handier getting time off work for away games rather than spacing 3 of them in 3 months.  There'd be a double away header in one of those international windows. 


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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Regardless of tv money for Nations league I think that will be the least of their concerns. It won’t be long before Euro 21 is under threat.

John Horan has by far the most realistic assessment of what sport has to contend with over the coming months/years - that there’ll be no competitive GAA action as long as social distancing is needed. Now he has an extra hurdle given all GAA players have other jobs but that’s the simple reality. 

We need a vaccine before we are back to enjoying football without the constant threat hanging over of a positive test/outbreak amongst a squad/second wave. Finishing off the club competitions in 2020 is fanciful at best.

Good post.

I agree with all of it except the third last word - 'fanciful' - I had to Google it to find the definition. LOL It's not certain that they can all be finished, but it is realistic (for a few countries at least). 
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With all the covid reshuffling, UEFA were short 2 international games. There was talk of shortening Nations League but it now looks like FIFA will schedule an international window in January 2022 to make up for it. AFCON will be on at the time, and CONCACAF announced fixtures today for January.

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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

With all the covid reshuffling, UEFA were short 2 international games. There was talk of shortening Nations League but it now looks like FIFA will schedule an international window in January 2022 to make up for it. AFCON will be on at the time, and CONCACAF announced fixtures today for January.


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Awful disappointing update Shedite. 

Thought it might've been an unlikely declaration from the Bulgarian FA telling us we're sound to land over in September. LOL
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Awful disappointing update Shedite. 

Thought it might've been an unlikely declaration from the Bulgarian FA telling us we're sound to land over in September. LOL

There will probably be crowds at football in Bulgaria this Autumn.  However very unlikely UEFA will sanction crowds in September.  Still hopeful for October and November but not optimistic.
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Any idea when the squad will be named for these games? Not too far away, no? 
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3 weeks to the day now to the first game.
Hoping there's not some massive Covid spike in Europe to derail them.
I'd say we'll get the squad a week before, no?
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Historically they get named 3ish weeks in advance, and then have the squad train together for 5 or 6 days? Set tactics etc. 

So I would think Monday? No?
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