U.S Politics

Trump has a very limited vocabulary at the best of times as befits a man who has never read a book and has the attention span of a fruit fly. The latter was viewed as a blessing by aides who felt free to ignore outrageously stupid orders, often issued in a tantrum, knowing that he would forget about them in an instant. His tendency to mix up words frequently ( he once said 'orange' four times in a speech when he meant ' origin ' ) was something he did not do when he was younger and some have speculated that this is a symptom of Alzheimer's or a consequence of a history of mini-strokes, which he has denied ever having but may account in part for the twitching hands, difficulty lifting a glass of water, etc. He is morbidly obese with a terrible diet and unlike the trimmer Biden does not take exercise, unless you count golf, so I suppose there's a reasonable chance of him snuffing it before he has to do any jail time for sedition, fraud, rape or whatever.

irishmufc wrote: http://www.irishpost.com/news/donald-trump-asking-allies-to-tweet-insults-for-him-following-social-media-ban-202916 Trump asking his friends to tweet out insults for him. A 74 year old man acting like a complete child  Can't wait to see what his Presidential library will look like.

Edited by ConorMac77 - 04 Feb 2021 at 7:58pm

Sham157 wrote: Donald acquitted

Yes. Partly for the history books and the body of evidence so far, also to expose the cowardice of the majority of Republican senators. Seven had the balls to vote against their own party, McConnell and others did not but condemned Trump and stressed that their vote was based on a constitutional technicality. Deal was done with the House impeachment managers to exclude witnesses so Biden agenda on Covid, nomination for Attorney General, etc could proceed without filibuster. There are several tons of sh*t waiting to come down on Trump and his enablers when all the criminal investigations are concluded, on top of the other cases including fraud, rape, etc and exposure of Russian linked corruption. The GOP nightmare has only begun. I believe that they are finished and will never have another President. The party's future is that of a fascist fringe whose 'respectable' wing and major donors will desert.

Trumps main objective is to stay out of prison followed by being as a petty vindictive provocateur as he can be.

nvidic wrote: Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote: Green Cockade wrote: Yes. Partly for the history books and the body of evidence so far, also to expose the cowardice of the majority of Republican senators. Seven had the balls to vote against their own party, McConnell and others did not but condemned Trump and stressed that their vote was based on a constitutional technicality. Deal was done with the House impeachment managers to exclude witnesses so Biden agenda on Covid, nomination for Attorney General, etc could proceed without filibuster. There are several tons of sh*t waiting to come down on Trump and his enablers when all the criminal investigations are concluded, on top of the other cases including fraud, rape, etc and exposure of Russian linked corruption. The GOP nightmare has only begun. I believe that they are finished and will never have another President. The party's future is that of a fascist fringe whose 'respectable' wing and major donors will desert. It's hard to take anything else someone says about Trump seriously when these accusations are treated seriously. You do realise you have to be convicted of rape to be a rapist? What? So if you murder someone but get away with it, you're not a murderer?

I think when you go into the detail of the hearing you come away with the understanding that it is neither a victory nor a loss for anybody. Trump's acquittal was the product of the need for a 2/3 majority vote, and there was some pretty scathing "obiter" comments from people like McConnell. Its basically left to his fanatics to celebrate his acquittal, as they ignore key facts about it, not that that would stop them.

Het-field wrote: I think when you go into the detail of the hearing you come away with the understanding that it is neither a victory nor a loss for anybody. Trump's acquittal was the product of the need for a 2/3 majority vote, and there was some pretty scathing "obiter" comments from people like McConnell. Its basically left to his fanatics to celebrate his acquittal, as they ignore key facts about it, not that that would stop them. Political trials like this are fraught, and are not necessarily in the public interest, as they are racked with partisan interests, and natural and procedural justice is not really at the forefront of the outcome. And equally, these interests compromise the outcome. Hence, you're either celebrating a victory "on paper" which is easily knocked on the head, or lamenting a defeat, which doesnt actually end the saga in a meaningful way.