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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Subject: U.S Politics
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 4:26pm
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Anyone been following the GOP debates? What do you make of the Rep. candidates so far? Dem. ones starting next month. Personally would love to see Sanders get the Democratic nomination, but don't know if his Nordic style policies would go down well in the U.S.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 4:31pm
Would love to see Sanders vs Trump, social democracy versus lunacy. Would make a change from the lesser of two evils choice that normally occurs.
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Posted By: rossieman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 4:37pm
 pre Madonna wrote:
Would love to see Sanders vs Trump, social democracy versus lunacy. Would make a change from the lesser of two evils choice that normally occurs. |
agree PM. Doubt it will happen but it would be interesting.
Sanders has some very interesting policies but as Seany says that mightn't sit well with the US electorate .
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 4:53pm
Dump sl*gging off that bird for been an ugly one, while having the worst comb over the world has ever known.
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 4:54pm
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Tom Brady has weighed his support behind Donald Trump
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 4:59pm
If Trump somehow gets the GOP nomination the Dems will win regardless of who gets their nomination IMO
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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: SByrne24
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 5:28pm
Donald trump will win the election. He's hitting hardcore republican values, in military and also financially.
Hillary Clinton ruined herself due to lack of transparency.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 5:33pm
Not a hope Trump will win. GOP lost last 2 elections because they were so far to the right.
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: rossieman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 5:34pm
Denis Irwin wrote:
If Trump somehow gets the GOP nomination the Dems will win regardless of who gets their nomination IMO |
he wont get the nomination.Once it gets serious he will be shown up ,look at last nights debate,he says nothing of worth.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 5:46pm
I hope he does get it, it will improve turnout hugely. Loads of first-time voters, every Latino will register for a start!!!
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2015 at 9:40am
Saw this post on Facebook so not sure how true it is. Can't be arsed checking it all out.
It's only an outrage to people with common sense Bernie. Glad you're one of those people.
#Sanders2016
Also, let's remember why we fight for Bernie. Because the Republicans don't know how to govern. Facts are facts.
OUT OF THE TOP 20 POOREST STATES IN AMERICA 17 OF THEM ARE LED BY REPUBLICANS. 85% OF THESE POOREST STATES HAVE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND MOST HAVE HAD REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP FOR A LONG, LONG TIME:
Mississippi - Phil Byrant - Elected 2011, REP
Haley Barbour - Elected 2004 - 2011, REP
Median household income: $39,680
(((Mississippi had the highest poverty rate in the country last year, at 21.5%.........had the lowest 2013 GDP per capita of $32,421, well below the average among the states of $48,183)))
Alabama - Robert Bentley - Elected 2010, REP
Bob Riley - Elected 2003 - 2010, REP
Median household: $42,100
(((Alabama had the fourth highest poverty rate in the country last year, at 19.3%..........Alabama had a very low 2013 GDP per capita of $37,389, well below the average among the states of $48,183.)))
Tennessee - Bill Haslam - Elected 2011, REP
Median household income: $44,361
(((At 6.7%, the state also had one of the higher unemployment rates in the country.)))
Louisiana -Bobby Jindal - Elected 2007, REP
Median household income: $44,555
(((At 6.4%, Louisiana had one of the higher unemployment rates in the country.....Louisiana was also one of only three states to run a government deficit in 2013: State expenses were almost $800 million more than revenues)))
New Mexico - Susana Martinez - Elected 2011, REP
Median household income: 44,803
(((About 21% of New Mexicans lived below the poverty line last year, the second highest rate in the country. At 6.5%, the state also had one of the higher unemployment rates in the country..........The state government's finances were also weaker than most, with a 2013 surplus of just about $608 million, compared with an average of about $4.2 billion among all states.)))
South Carolina - Nikki Haley - Elected 2011, REP
Mark Sanford - Elected 2003 - 2011, Rep
Median household: 45,328
(((At 6.4%, the state had one of the higher unemployment rates in the country.......had the third-lowest 2013 per-capita GDP among the states at just $36,059)))
Florida - Rick Scott - Elected 2011, REP
Charlie Crist - Elected 2007 - 2011, REP
Jeb Bush - Elected 1999 - 2007, REP
Median household income: $47,463.
(((Florida had the 16th highest poverty rate in the country last year, at 16.5%.)))
Oklahoma - Mary Fallin - Elected 2011, REP
Median household: 47,529. (((Oklahoma’s poverty rate was 16.6% last year, the 14th highest rate.)))
Idaho - Butch Otter - Elected 2007, REP
Jim Risch - Elected 2006 - 2007, REP
Dirk Kempthorne - Elected 1999 - 2006, REP
Phil Batt - Elected 1995 - 1999
Median household income: $47,861
(((It also had the second-lowest 2013 GDP per capita, at just $35,375)
Ohio - John Kasich - Elected 2011, REP
Median household income: $49,308
Georgia - Nathan Deal - Elected 2011, REP
George Perdue - Elected 2003 - 2011, REP
Median household income: $49,321.
(((Georgia had the seventh highest poverty rate in the country, at 18.3%. Also, despite declining from the year before, the state’s 7.2% unemployment rate was one of the highest in the country.)))
Indiana - Mike Pence - Elected 2013, REP
Mitch Daniels - Elected 2005 -2013, REP
Median household income: $49,446
Maine - Paul LePage - Elected 2011, REP
Median household income: $49,462
Michigan - Rick Snyder - Elected 2011, REP
Median household income: $49,847
(((The state’s unemployment rate was 7.3% last year, among the highest nationwide.)))
Arizona - Elected Doug Ducey 2015, REP
Jan Brewer - Elected 2009, REP
Median household income: $50,068.
(((Poverty in Arizona was a major problem, with 18.2% living below the poverty line last year, the 10th highest poverty rate in the country.)))
South Dakota - Dennis Daugaard - Elected 2011, REP
Mike Rounds - Elected 2003 - 2011, REP
William J. Janklow - Elected 1995 - 2003, REP
Walter Miller - Elected 1993 - 1995, REP
George Mickelson - Elected 1987 -1993, REP
William J. Janklow - Elected 1070 - 1987, REP
Median household income: $50,979
Sources - I used the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2014 American Community Survey (ACS) and the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) for 2013 and 2014.
Feel free to share, as these are facts minus the hyperbole and rhetoric.
#FeelTheBern
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Posted By: UCDFAN
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 2:49pm
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Donald Trump wouldn't be my cup of tea, but.... very Zen
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Posted By: tribalarmy
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 3:18pm
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Clinton President, O'Malley VP.
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Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 3:30pm
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I like Sanders, if he went up against Trump it would be some clash of ideologies, not hard enough on guns though but that's to be expected giving his Vermont background.
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Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile.
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Posted By: rossieman
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 3:40pm
Sanders 
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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 4:13pm
tribalarmy wrote:
Clinton President, O'Malley VP. |
O malley would be a great vp pick alright for whoever wins it if he doesn't win it himself
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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Posted By: d13dave
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 4:44pm
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Bernie is a great bit of stuff altogether.
America is an absolutely f**ked up ruthless greedy country. He is a breath of fresh air.
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Posted By: Just saying like
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 8:06am
It frightens the shyte out of me that Trump is still the leading
candidate for the Republican nomination. In fact if frightens me that
he should even still be in the running. This guy is Putin on steroids. He could win if there is a major perceived national threat during
the campaign like a Daesh attack on the HOMELAND.
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I don't know what more we can do in terms of being open and transparent - John Delaney
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Posted By: d13dave
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 10:48am
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I am boycotting the place if they vote in Donald Trump
I hang onto the hope that he will do something so stupid and offensive that his campaign will fall apart
He is saying plenty of offensive and stupid things and his lead keeps increasing
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 11:05am
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I nearly admire Trump at this stage. He's clearly pulling the piss and just seeing how far he can take it. 'Murica!
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Posted By: heighway2heaven
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 11:45am
Just saying like wrote:
It frightens the shyte out of me that Trump is still the leading
candidate for the Republican nomination. In fact if frightens me that
he should even still be in the running. This guy is Putin on steroids. He could win if there is a major perceived national threat during
the campaign like a Daesh attack on the HOMELAND.
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I don't normally pay any attention to this pantomime, but the f**king bonkers thing is Jeb Bush is running too and Trump is making him look positively balanced and rational.
I think it's time we closed the book on the 'America' experiment. It's gotten out of control. We need to just shut the door and climb in to the chopper, like Richard Attenborough did at the end of Jurassic Park.
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Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 11:54am
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If trump wins the nomination, which he won't, I'd expect the democrats to carry 35+ states
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 2:16pm
1 in 4 Americans aren't registered to vote, it was higher pre Obama as many black people registered to vote him in. I believe if Trump gets the GOP nomination, you will see a lot of Hispanics registering to keep him out. Hillary is the most likely next president, which is slightly less frightening than Trump
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 9:43am
pre Madonna wrote:
1 in 4 Americans aren't registered to vote, it was higher pre Obama as many black people registered to vote him in. I believe if Trump gets the GOP nomination, you will see a lot of Hispanics registering to keep him out. Hillary is the most likely next president, which is slightly less frightening than Trump |
Its look like it will come down to Trump v Clinton.
Is america ready to have a female president? I really hope so.
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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 9:47am
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People saying that Trump wont win it. Reagan did. Baby Bush did, twice. Only in Amurica.
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"Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex
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Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 11:47am
Bernie Sanders is an outstanding candidate, probably too "radical" for 'Murica though
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Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 12:16pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-debate-terrorism_5670d22ee4b0648fe30184ae?utm_hp_ref=uk&ir=UK§ion=uk&ncid=fcbklnkukhpmg00000001" rel="nofollow - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-debate-terrorism_5670d22ee4b0648fe30184ae?utm_hp_ref=uk&ir=UK§ion=uk&ncid=fcbklnkukhpmg00000001
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Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands.
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Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 12:36pm
Gary McKay wrote:
People saying that Trump wont win it. Reagan did. Baby Bush did, twice. Only in Amurica. |
Both were at least governors of states with a track record. Regan had a very clear ideological agenda that he presented as pro business and anti Russia. Bush had a family name and became a war time president. Trump is the natural continuation of celebrity and reality tv culture. I don't think they are valid comparisons.
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He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 1:33pm
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If America votes Trump in, which I don't think they will, they deserve everything bad that happens to them.
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 1:40pm
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As Zinedine said hopefully they are ready for a female president as realistically it looks like Hilary is the only thing standing in his way.
It seems to me that Trump is actually some kind of social experiment to see what percentage of the US population are totally f*cked in the head. The results will be interesting.
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Posted By: Saint Tom
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 3:04pm
#FU2016
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 4:41pm
Reckon its between Sanders and Clinton.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 6:28pm
A Black president followed by a female president. Rednecks would be going crazy.
It would be really funny if the next Republican candidate was Condoleeza Rice. They wouldn't know who to vote for.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2016 at 10:07pm
Trump just be endorsed by Sarah Palin 
Head honchos in the GOP must be going nuts. She cost McCain the presidency in 2008
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 12:09pm
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Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 10:21pm
What are they voting on at the moment over there? Is this just to find out which party get's their main presedential candidate?
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Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government.
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Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 10:28pm
Feel the Bern
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 10:53pm
If it's Sanders v Trump, Trump will win unless Bloomberg enters the race.The moderate Republicans who would probably even vote for Hillary ahead of Trump would be extremely unlikely to vote for Sanders. If Bloomberg enters it will throw the cat amongst the pigeons as he would be attractive to moderate Republicans and the Democrats who would be reluctantly voting for Sanders otherwise.
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 10:57pm
Yeah, Trump v Sanders is the only way Bloomberg enters, and he'd likely have a great shot at a win. I doubt he'd enter in a Trump v Hillary contest. That would only hand Hillary victory.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:01pm
Can anyone explain my question
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:01pm
Denis Irwin wrote:
If it's Sanders v Trump, Trump will win unless Bloomberg enters the race.The moderate Republicans who would probably even vote for Hillary ahead of Trump would be extremely unlikely to vote for Sanders. If Bloomberg enters it will throw the cat amongst the pigeons as he would be attractive to moderate Republicans and the Democrats who would be reluctantly voting for Sanders otherwise. |
Bloomberg has no chance whoever the nominees are.
In a hypothetical Trump v Sanders race, a limited number of polls show Sanders to be well ahead.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
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Posted By: Hickster74
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:01pm
I don't see the republican establishment allowing Trump to win, by fair means or foul they'll stop him. It's a scary thought but I reckon Trump would win the election.
And deluded as he is, I love watching him speak, it's like watching a standup.
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"Perhaps the reason that they did not consider the worst, was because discussion of such cases would have cast suspicion on the planner as being a "saboteur". Paranoia was rampant throughout."
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:05pm
Bob Hoskins wrote:
Can anyone explain my question |
They are just voting to see who the party candidate will be. All the collegiate votes of each state will go to the party conventions and the candidate announced. The collegiate votes are weighted depended on the size of the state. New Hampsire have fock all, California loads.
Trump may still run as an independent if he fails in the nomination election
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Posted By: Hickster74
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:06pm
He would but he'll have no chance as an independent.
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"Perhaps the reason that they did not consider the worst, was because discussion of such cases would have cast suspicion on the planner as being a "saboteur". Paranoia was rampant throughout."
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Posted By: Just saying like
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:12pm
Bob Hoskins wrote:
Can anyone explain my question |
You would generally expect a person to understand their own question but possibly need help understanding the answer. I guess that's why you're a Mod.
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I don't know what more we can do in terms of being open and transparent - John Delaney
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:17pm
Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:18pm
Just saying like wrote:
Bob Hoskins wrote:
Can anyone explain my question |
You would generally expect a person to understand their own question but possibly need help understanding the answer. I guess that's why you're a Mod. |
Meow
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Posted By: Just saying like
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:20pm
Pussy
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I don't know what more we can do in terms of being open and transparent - John Delaney
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:31pm
Bernie, as much as I would love to be proved wrong, has no hope of winning ths democratic nomination, he knew this at the outset I am sure. He has more than achieved what I feel were his goals; to introduce the word socialism into American political debate without universally negative connotations, to show that a campaign can be run without the backing of big business and Wall Street, to drag sections of the Democratic party to the left of centre and to show you can question American foreign policy and not being unpatriotic. In the end though Clinton will comfortably win, but in 15-20 years time, when n economically left of centre president is elected, I am sure that Bernie will be thanked.
Far more worrying is the Republican debate, while Trump is the comic villain of the piece, I am not sure he is the most dangerous. Cruz and Rubio are completely unhinged, just are not as amusing. Some of Cruz's views are as redneck as they come, in a recent debate, he claimed Clinton would allow abortions up until the last week of pregnancy and Rubio is little better. I am not so sure that Trump isn't the best of an awful lot.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:41pm
In the Republican race Rubio is the candidate I have fancied to win from a long way out and after Iowa that looked like a good bet as he polled better than expected. However I think he may have shot himself in the foot with his robot impersonation at the weekend.
Christie and Fiorina have now pulled out of the race.
Carson will surely not be far behind.
There are effectively five people still in the race - Trump and Cruz on the batsh*t crazy flying pink elephant wing of the party, Kasich, Rubio and Bush on the merely crazy establishment wing.
I think Trump will burn Cruz off.
That means an establishment candidate has to emerge from Kasich, Rubio and Bush, burning two off of them off in the process, to challenge Trump.
I'm increasingly thinking it could be Kasich, who polled well enough in New Hampshire.
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Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:43pm
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True enough PM, you can't be quite sure Trump means everything he says, but scarily, the other 2 mean every word. We may have generations of parochial gombeens for representatives, but none of them have a chance of getting near commanding a nuclear arsenal any time soon, in the US, being affiliated to one or other party means you nearly automatically get close to it when the election reaches that point.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:44pm
Rubio has huge financial support behind him. I think he will emerge against Cruz. I can see Trump drifting.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 12:02am
pre Madonna wrote:
Rubio has huge financial support behind him. I think he will emerge against Cruz. I can see Trump drifting. |
He's a terrible dweeb, though, and is beginning to look out of his depth.
Trump and Cruz are basically fishing in the same pool, or at least very similar pools, for votes.
Trump is well ahead in the polls for next two states up which are South Carolina and Nevada.
That should give him a good bit of momentum ahead of Super Tuesday on March 1st when something like 12 or 13 states vote.
If he pulls well ahead of Cruz on March 1st, it's over.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 12:26am
Agreed, I could be very wrong, but I think his novelty has worn off a bit. It must be remembered that Republicans have very short attention plans, Trump has had his moment. Cruz's craziness, or Cruziness if you will, is a more long lasting lunacy. Rubio is a bit awkward alright, but has friends in all the right places.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 10:30am
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People have been saying that now for months about Trump. Super Tuesday isn't that far off.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 1:13pm
ewerk wrote:
People have been saying that now for months about Trump. Super Tuesday isn't that far off. |
Where Cruz will blow him away. I do think Trump is the lesser of two evils as well.
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Posted By: SByrne24
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 1:29pm
Trump can very easily get the band playing to his tune again, if him and Bernie Saunders go head to head for President Donald Trump wins.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 1:34pm
True, but Bernie Sanders might give him a closer run.
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Posted By: SByrne24
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 1:53pm
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I think Clinton will give a closer run due to her record of being in Government and not forgetting the husband. America isn't ready for the likes of Bernie Saunders nor will it ever be, similar to the UK and you can can compare Saunders to Jeremy Corbyn. When it comes down to it voters stick to what their pocket tells them and stability.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 2:04pm
He is still Sanders captain, or should I say colonel.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 2:35pm
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Although there have been a lot more people pushing to the far right/left of late it's the centre that will decide the election and should any moderate face an extremist in the GE then the moderate will win every time imo.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 2:42pm
Who in the US election is pushing far left? Or have I been asleep.
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Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 2:56pm
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In fairness, social democracy would be considered far left by most of the Republicans candidates.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 2:58pm
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Sanders would have been considered a purebred communist in the states a few years ago.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 3:00pm
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And still is by many as Devrozex points out.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 4:15pm
Just because that is what some Americans may or may not believe, it doesn't make him it.
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 4:27pm
Surely how far to the left or right someone is on the political spectrum is relative to their country/region?
In the states advocating universal subsidised or free healthcare might place you far left of centre, whereas in Europe you might be only be slightly left of centre. Similar with the right and how far you're willing to believe in the virtues of the "free market" and its ability to solve problems.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 5:01pm
Of course it is not. What a bizarre thing to say.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 5:12pm
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It's not bizarre in the least, it was a very valid and well made point. Where you're seen to be on the political spectrum depends very much on the time and political/cultural environment in which you find yourself.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 5:27pm
Balderdash and piffle. So what are, say , the Communist party of America if Sanders is far left?
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2016 at 6:12pm
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/11/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-election-2016-popular-vote-superdelegates" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/11/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-election-2016-popular-vote-superdelegates
Interesting article about the ability of superdrelgates to change the outcome of the nomination campaign.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 8:28am
pre Madonna wrote:
Balderdash and piffle. So what are, say , the Communist party of America if Sanders is far left? |
Easy there, sunshine. This is a family forum, there's no need for language like that.
I didn't say that Sanders was as far as you can go to the left in American politics, there's still room for communism in there.
The point that has been made several times is that Sanders' views place him on the far left of the US political landscape as can be seen below. Now if you transplanted the same views into an Irish or UK politician then they wouldn't be seen as being nearly as far left leaning. It's simple really.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 3:20pm
You are changing the parameters, he was far left, now he is the most liberal on the US political landscape. Two very different things.
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Posted By: Bohsfan84
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 6:16pm
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Say what you want about Donald Trump but there are homeless ragheads on every street corner in my town selling and shooting up babania on every street corner, openly pissing on street corners in front of children and being an overall malignant presence. Not exactly a great advertisement for multiculturalism.
It's embarrassing. There are enough Irish winos on the streets as it is, without being taken over by these subhumans.
When I lived in New York you had to go looking for vagrants to find them. They are everywhere here!
I hope Trump is elected. The alternatives are just as useless. Besides they are just a lightning rod for big pharma and the bank CEO's who really control the country.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 9:39am
pre Madonna wrote:
You are changing the parameters, he was far left, now he is the most liberal on the US political landscape. Two very different things. |
I'm not at all. I'm say how far left he is depends entirely on the political landscape in which he operates.
You disagree with that but this is politics and there are no hard and fast rules so I guess we'll agree to disagree.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 10:17am
Bohsfan84 wrote:
Say what you want about Donald Trump but there are homeless ragheads on every street corner in my town selling and shooting up babania on every street corner, openly pissing on street corners in front of children and being an overall malignant presence. Not exactly a great advertisement for multiculturalism.
It's embarrassing. There are enough Irish winos on the streets as it is, without being taken over by these subhumans.
When I lived in New York you had to go looking for vagrants to find them. They are everywhere here!
I hope Trump is elected. The alternatives are just as useless. Besides they are just a lightning rod for big pharma and the bank CEO's who really control the country. |
Some day a real rain will come...
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 2:37pm
ewerk wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
You are changing the parameters, he was far left, now he is the most liberal on the US political landscape. Two very different things. |
I'm not at all. I'm say how far left he is depends entirely on the political landscape in which he operates.
You disagree with that but this is politics and there are no hard and fast rules so I guess we'll agree to disagree. |
No it doesn't, by that view, Enda Kenny is far right, as there is no real far right on the Irish political landscape.
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Posted By: ewerk
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 3:49pm
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Well there is the likes of Identity Ireland but I take the point that they are very much on the fringes. Ireland is very much a nation of centrists.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 4:28pm
ewerk wrote:
Well there is the likes of Identity Ireland but I take the point that they are very much on the fringes. Ireland is very much a nation of centrists. |
And in the states there are parties like the aforementioned Communist Party, the socialist party and regional leftists like the Vermont progressive/ socialist Alternative in Washington for example. I am probably being a bit pedantic, but there is a ppolitical spectrum, it doesn't change, no matter what the nation.
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 4:32pm
Well, you could argue that the "centre" is th median position in every country.
But the left right distinction is overly simplistic.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 11:26pm
One of the Judges on the Supreme Court has died and the Republicans are tripping over themselves saying that the next President should be the one to nominate the replacement. Attitude wouldn't be because any Obama nominee would tip the balance of the court to the liberal justices of course
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 12:00am
F**king unbelievable. Bald politicking while the corpse is still warm.
Scalia was an incredibly intelligent man but some of his opinions were ridiculous.
Sure if the next President is a Democrat, there'll be little enough they'll be able to do anyway.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 12:24am
White House has confirmed Obama intends to nominate a new Supreme Court justice. Should be interesting as the person being spoken about by CNN was confirmed only a few years ago by the Senate on a vote of 97-0 to the D.C circuit of the U.S. Court of appeals. Would presumably put the Republicans on the backfoot in that regard.
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 8:27am
Denis Irwin wrote:
White House has confirmed Obama intends to nominate a new Supreme Court justice. Should be interesting as the person being spoken about by CNN was confirmed only a few years ago by the Senate on a vote of 97-0 to the D.C circuit of the U.S. Court of appeals. Would presumably put the Republicans on the backfoot in that regard. |
Won't make a bit of difference , they will block it because , Obama.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 11:19am
What are the dicks going to do if it's a Clinton nominee.They can hardly block it for 4 years
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 7:29pm
Clinton is very much a Republican's Democrat.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 12:55am
Just been listening to last night's Republican debate there. It's tremendously entertaining fare altogether, like a real life Jerry Springer show. The bit where Trump royally clamps Bush and Rubio over September 11th and the Iraq War is box office stuff. 
From 30:00 on:
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 11:45am
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Twitter reactions to Scalia's death:
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Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 11:49am
Looks like the entire vocabulary of the Fascist-Left.
It's funny that you never see that scale of abuse when Left-Wingers die.
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 12:01pm
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Here's how actual fascists responded:
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2016 at 1:53pm
http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/8083" rel="nofollow - http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/8083
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Posted By: Just saying like
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 8:58am
Just saying like wrote:
It frightens the shyte out of me that Trump is still the leading
candidate for the Republican nomination. In fact if frightens me that
he should even still be in the running. This guy is Putin on steroids. He could win if there is a major perceived national threat during
the campaign like a Daesh attack on the HOMELAND.
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I'm not feeling any better about this 3 months on 
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 9:00am
Nah even with that I doubt it. He will never get the Hispanic vote or African American vote. Would also appear to be a good number of "mainstream" Republicans who have said they will not vote for him.
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 9:09am
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He won the Latino vote in Nevada. Marc Rubio is more of a worry than Trump. http://www.vox.com/2016/2/20/11067932/rubio-worse-than-trump" rel="nofollow - http://www.vox.com/2016/2/20/11067932/rubio-worse-than-trump
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 9:14am
He won't get it in a general election. That Latino vote is soley from registered Republicans AFAIK
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: SByrne24
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 10:20am
Denis Irwin wrote:
He won't get it in a general election. That Latino vote is soley from registered Republicans AFAIK |
In a general election v Sanders Trump wins.
V Clinton he has a real chance also, the fact Bernie Sanders even has a chance proves to me Trump has a real chance, I believe whoever Trump goes up against he will win. He appeals to a range of people economically he isn't a Washington puppet it will be his terms, I wonder who will be his Vice President. He'll go for a woman I think to prove his not simply an angry white man, Nikki Haley is perfect of native american descent and a woman proves his not a neo nazi or as i said angry white man. Americans in polls are most concerned about 'terrorism and national security' well... that all points to one candidate Donald Trump.
Boris Johnson and Donald Trump leading their respective nations, i hope I live to see that
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 10:24am
You won't be living long much afterwards
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: colemanY2K
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 10:36am
Just saying like wrote:
Just saying like wrote:
It frightens the shyte out of me that Trump is still the leading
candidate for the Republican nomination. In fact if frightens me that
he should even still be in the running. This guy is Putin on steroids. He could win if there is a major perceived national threat during
the campaign like a Daesh attack on the HOMELAND.
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I'm not feeling any better about this 3 months on
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the nomination is as good as in the bag.
The run off at the end of the year is going to be very interesting.
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 10:39am
SByrne24 wrote:
Denis Irwin wrote:
He won't get it in a general election. That Latino vote is soley from registered Republicans AFAIK |
In a general election v Sanders Trump wins.
V Clinton he has a real chance also, the fact Bernie Sanders even has a chance proves to me Trump has a real chance, I believe whoever Trump goes up against he will win. He appeals to a range of people economically he isn't a Washington puppet it will be his terms, I wonder who will be his Vice President. He'll go for a woman I think to prove his not simply an angry white man, Nikki Haley is perfect of native american descent and a woman proves his not a neo nazi or as i said angry white man. Americans in polls are most concerned about 'terrorism and national security' well... that all points to one candidate Donald Trump.
Boris Johnson and Donald Trump leading their respective nations, i hope I live to see that |
Good enough to place a bet?
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Posted By: MC Hammered
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2016 at 10:51am
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Scary stuff http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
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