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https://news.sky.com/story/president-trumps-listening-session-cheat-sheet-i-hear-you-11261265

The man is from another planet.


Edited by irishmufc - 22 Feb 2018 at 8:14am

So what of the risks of:

Kids getting the gun from the teacher's desk?
Teachers going bananas and shooting kids?
Other teachers not being able to recognise when a teacher has gone off on one?
An active shooter going after teachers first, before anyone else, negating the "advantage" instantaneously?
Teachers blowing their own brains out in school and being discovered by kids?
Rambo style teachers massively overreacting and going shooting when there are no active shooters in the school?
When there are active shooters, kids getting hit in the crossfire and hit by (the ever ironic) "friendly fire"?

This is just simply the most bananas answer possible. You don't make kids safer by putting more guns in schools.

This is becoming more and more bizarre as the days go by. Its baffling how nobody is actually attempting to say 'stop' as this nonsense becomes part of the debate. Its clear that only a very small set of American society agrees with the  "good guy with a gun" theory, while the rest of the (real) world dissents from that, based on legislative action after similar events. The resistance to gun control has to be ebbing away, apart from the most vigorous of lobbyists (centralised, and individual). Sadly, I dont think we will see any proper action in the forseeable future, and in the meantime, more lives will be lost.

SuperDave84 wrote: So what of the risks of: Kids getting the gun from the teacher's desk? Teachers going bananas and shooting kids? Other teachers not being able to recognise when a teacher has gone off on one? An active shooter going after teachers first, before anyone else, negating the "advantage" instantaneously? Teachers blowing their own brains out in school and being discovered by kids? Rambo style teachers massively overreacting and going shooting when there are no active shooters in the school? When there are active shooters, kids getting hit in the crossfire and hit by (the ever ironic) "friendly fire"? This is just simply the most bananas answer possible. You don't make kids safer by putting more guns in schools.

Sounds like a day out in Homs.

If you give people access to guns, eventually they will use them. You have a constitution that says everyone has the right to have firearms, and supporters of both parties are fiercely protective of it, so what do you do?

It's not like the rest of the world where guns are hard to get, and possessing one is an automatic criminal offence. People will blame Trump for this, but that's not tackling the real problem, which is the culture that willingly advocates the need for people to bear arms in the first place.

I read somewhere yesterday that Trump promised to ban all porn if he got into office

Did you really compare guns with alcohol?

planning wrote: The Irish government have just overturned the hundred year ban on alcohol sold on Good Friday. It's not going to change Ireland's alcohol dependency culture, which is advocated, promoted, and celebrated across every aspect of society. A drug that ultimately kills people, harms others, and causes long term marital and health problems. America has had this gun issue going back hundreds of years. Democratic and Republican politicians have been reluctant to do anything about it. Guns are part of American culture, seen by society as protection, not as a threat. It's no wonder that it then spills out onto the streets, with horrific consequences.

Liberalising alcohol consumption for one day a year is not in the same league as gun control. Equally, having one day a year where people can't go to the pub is unlikely to make a noticeable difference in the way we consume alcohol. People either abstained or stocked up in the days before Good Friday. Making it more difficult to purchase guns will actually have a tangible influence, as it will render more difficult for "legitimate" firearms to fall into the wrong hands. Ditto imposing stiff penalties for those found with illegally procured firearms (not a great leap from crimes related to the possession of weapons).

I don't disagree that there has been a bi-partisan failing on gun control. But at least the Democrats have made some efforts (albeit a fraction of what John Howard and John Major did in Australia and the UK). They are not standing on ceremony peddling the "good guy with a gun" myth.

RB