Underage squads: Best Prospects

J89 wrote: Results against Luxembourg won't count so there's six points to knock off Sweden's total and four off ours. That puts them on 11pts and us on 9pts. 3pts would be enough as long as Sweden don't beat Italy. Tiebreakers are determined on head to head and we've already beaten Sweden twice so goal difference won't matter if we both finish level on points. So if we pick up 6pts in a couple of weeks we'll be on 15pts and if Sweden actually beat Italy they'll be on 14pts so can't get second but could give us a chance to grab first as Italy will be on 14pts when you discard the Luxembourg results.

Bandwagon wrote: J89 wrote: Results against Luxembourg won't count so there's six points to knock off Sweden's total and four off ours. That puts them on 11pts and us on 9pts. 3pts would be enough as long as Sweden don't beat Italy. Tiebreakers are determined on head to head and we've already beaten Sweden twice so goal difference won't matter if we both finish level on points. So if we pick up 6pts in a couple of weeks we'll be on 15pts and if Sweden actually beat Italy they'll be on 14pts so can't get second but could give us a chance to grab first as Italy will be on 14pts when you discard the Luxembourg results. Of course they do! They only dont count when it comes to determining the best 2nd place team from all 9 groups who will qualify automatically. Reason being there are some groups with 5 teams and other 6.

So the group table will look as normal with results against 6th placed teams counted to determine who finishes 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc.

And then they rank the second placed teams without the 6th placed teams to determine who gets the one automatic spot remaining and whose in the play offs so is it?

That will teach me to try and work out something at 1am

Because when I read this:
Qualifying group stage: The 53 teams are drawn into nine groups: eight groups of six teams and one group of five teams. Each group is played in home-and-away round-robin format. The nine group winners and the best runners-up (not counting results against the sixth-placed team) qualify directly for the final tournament, while the remaining eight runners-up advance to the play-offs.

Clicked in my head then that results against 6th placed teams are discarded when determining even who finishes 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc for group winners and ranking second placed teams

Edited by J89 - 20 May 2022 at 10:22am

Win our first two games and hope for a Italy-Sweden draw. We would have 2nd guaranteed and a free shot at beating Italy for top spot

Results against Luxembourg won't count so there's six points to knock off Sweden's total and four off ours.

That puts them on 11pts and us on 9pts. 3pts would be enough as long as Sweden don't beat Italy. Tiebreakers are determined on head to head and we've already beaten Sweden twice so goal difference won't matter if we both finish level on points.

So if we pick up 6pts in a couple of weeks we'll be on 15pts and if Sweden actually beat Italy they'll be on 14pts so can't get second but could give us a chance to grab first as Italy will be on 14pts when you discard the Luxembourg results.

Actually, if we win our two games on the 3rd and 6th won't we have 2nd place guaranteed before we meet Italy.

I'm not disagreeing with any of your points but I still don't think they will be called up.
Crawford made a point that the players who have gotten this far will carry on.
I'd say Taylor will be called in to cover that spartan midfield.

I can't see any of the 21's being called up to the the seniors this time around.

Edited by Fozz - 19 May 2022 at 3:08pm

There is no fear of a lack of depth in attacking areas anyways that's for sure. Midfield might be a different proposition next time around alright. Suspect Joe Hodge will be the first choice midfielder if he can stay fit that is. Unless there's someone stand out I am missing.

All 4 of Ferguson, Kayode, Odubeko & Whelan were called up the the 1 game vs Sweden (Ferguson pulled out), so in a 3 game window there's definitely room for Kenny to be added.