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    Posted: 21 May 2022 at 4:00pm
34 in October. I reckon he will stay one year at Everton as a player and then stay as a coach. 
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

One thing I'll add here is that when Seamus is finally not making squads, it will be a poorer day all round as his influence in and around the rest of the team seems to be significant.

The way he hold himself, looks out for young lads, speaks in public etc. are all things that will be lost when he is gone.

Interesting to see who emerges as Captain when himself and Duffy are no longer around.


I agree with others in saying Collins & Cullen as potential future captains. Possibly O'Shea, Knight & Ogbene.


Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

I've also a line of thinking that sees players like Collins, omobamidele and oshea really kick on next year and force kennys hand a play them as the back three. 

Seeing a player like ebosele, kilkenny, smallbone, ferguson break through and make solid claims for a place in the first 11.

In as little as a year we could see a very different ireland team than the one we see now.

The three keeper select themselves for the squad, this was a position we were worried about when Randolph was winding down 10 months ago. Looks like we're set for the next ten years now.

Collins, Omobamidele & O'Shea will definitely push Duffy hard. I think Egan will still be a starter for the Euros campaign though.

Of those other 4 names, Kilkenny is the only one I can see getting in the Ireland squad (not XI) in the next year (along with Coventry) because our Midfield options are so thin.

Smallbone perhaps. He has obvious quality, but he just cannot stay fit (missing from recent Southampton squads again). He badly needs a loan though, getting minutes off the bench for Southampton won't get him in the squad.

Ebosele & Ferguson are miles off the senior squad I think. Will Ebosele even be a starting player next season? Possibly not with that whole Udinese & Watford connection. And absolutely no way he'd be starting ahead of Doherty or Ogbene (depending on what position he end up playing.) McNamara is ahead of him at this point, too.

The likelihood of Ferguson becoming a starting player for Brighton at 17 is astronomically low. More likely he gets the Cup games & minutes of the bench here & there in the league in the first half of the season, then after he turns 18 he's sent on loan to League 1 in January.
That won't be enough to get him in the Ireland squad (let alone starting XI), but it would be much more desirable than another Connolly/Idah/Obafemi situation.
I could see him get his debut in the November friendlies, but straight back to the U21s after. Realistically he's still probably 2-4 years away from really impacting the senior team (see Parrott, Idah, Connolly, Obafemi).


A name I do think could come into contention for a spot in the squad in the next year is Joel Bagan. McClean & Stevens are both aging and both picking up injuries... Manning will need backup.
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I dont agree with that at all @kingkenny. The midfield and forward positions in the ireland team are very much up for grabs. At the moment I'd say that the only non-defender position that's pretty much locked down is Cullen. 


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Kilkenny is the only one of those 4 that's a guaranteed starter for the 21s nevermind the senior squad


Ferguson to be a starter every game for the 21's from the next campaign.
And Smallbone generally starts every game he is available for.
Festy only emerged this season as a good option, which explains his lack of starts.

I'm not discounting any of the players, my point was just the rush by some people to be them in a senior squad is way too early

My point was that these players could be in the seniors team starting 11 in the next 12 months. 

If Ferguson plays ten games in a row for Brighton next season he'd be in the seniors... it can happen that fast.

In much the same way it has already happened with bazunu, idah, knight, Collins etc.

Collins is in his third season of senior football and is only starting to break through for us now. Kenny brought through a core of his U21 players because it was needed then. 

At the moment none of them are close to the senior squad. Obviously a good season could see any of them brought in but being realistic it's only Kilkenny and Ebosele that have a decent chance at that
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Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Kilkenny is the only one of those 4 that's a guaranteed starter for the 21s nevermind the senior squad


Ferguson to be a starter every game for the 21's from the next campaign.
And Smallbone generally starts every game he is available for.
Festy only emerged this season as a good option, which explains his lack of starts.

I'm not discounting any of the players, my point was just the rush by some people to be them in a senior squad is way too early

My point was that these players could be in the seniors team starting 11 in the next 12 months. 

If Ferguson plays ten games in a row for Brighton next season he'd be in the seniors... it can happen that fast.

In much the same way it has already happened with bazunu, idah, knight, Collins etc.
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Kilkenny is the only one of those 4 that's a guaranteed starter for the 21s nevermind the senior squad


Ferguson to be a starter every game for the 21's from the next campaign.
And Smallbone generally starts every game he is available for.
Festy only emerged this season as a good option, which explains his lack of starts.

I'm not discounting any of the players, my point was just the rush by some people to be them in a senior squad is way too early
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Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Kilkenny is the only one of those 4 that's a guaranteed starter for the 21s nevermind the senior squad


Ferguson to be a starter every game for the 21's from the next campaign.
And Smallbone generally starts every game he is available for.
Festy only emerged this season as a good option, which explains his lack of starts.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

I've also a line of thinking that sees players like Collins, omobamidele and oshea really kick on next year and force kennys hand a play them as the back three. 

Seeing a player like ebosele, kilkenny, smallbone, ferguson break through and make solid claims for a place in the first 11.

In as little as a year we could see a very different ireland team than the one we see now.

The three keeper select themselves for the squad, this was a position we were worried about when Randolph was winding down 10 months ago. Looks like we're set for the next ten years now.

Kilkenny is the only one of those 4 that's a guaranteed starter for the 21s nevermind the senior squad
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I've also a line of thinking that sees players like Collins, omobamidele and oshea really kick on next year and force kennys hand a play them as the back three. 

Seeing a player like ebosele, kilkenny, smallbone, ferguson break through and make solid claims for a place in the first 11.

In as little as a year we could see a very different ireland team than the one we see now.

The three keeper select themselves for the squad, this was a position we were worried about when Randolph was winding down 10 months ago. Looks like we're set for the next ten years now.
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

One thing I'll add here is that when Seamus is finally not making squads, it will be a poorer day all round as his influence in and around the rest of the team seems to be significant.

The way he hold himself, looks out for young lads, speaks in public etc. are all things that will be lost when he is gone.

Interesting to see who emerges as Captain when himself and Duffy are no longer around.


Thats it, he still has major role for us as Captain and can still do his bit as a squad player for another while yet.

He'll be around until Euro 2024 finals at the least should be qualify at which point he'll be 35 heading for 36.

Duffy and Egan are vice captains, they'll still only be 32 and 31 at that point and could be around for another 2 or 3 campaigns beyond that. So you'd imagine one of them would be handed it.

Of the younger lads Collins seems like the natural successor beyond them at this moment in time but that can easily change.
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

One thing I'll add here is that when Seamus is finally not making squads, it will be a poorer day all round as his influence in and around the rest of the team seems to be significant.

The way he hold himself, looks out for young lads, speaks in public etc. are all things that will be lost when he is gone.

Interesting to see who emerges as Captain when himself and Duffy are no longer around.


Both Duffy and Egan seem to take turns captaining the team when Coleman isn't playing and both lads are the same age so could end up not playing anymore at the same time.

Cullen and Collins would be two lads I'd say could end as captain and vice captain when Coleman, Duffy, and Egan aren't around anymore.
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One thing I'll add here is that when Seamus is finally not making squads, it will be a poorer day all round as his influence in and around the rest of the team seems to be significant.

The way he hold himself, looks out for young lads, speaks in public etc. are all things that will be lost when he is gone.

Interesting to see who emerges as Captain when himself and Duffy are no longer around.
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Everton are a big club relatively speaking and narrowly avoiding relegation is a real shot across the bough for them. 

They've conceded 61 goals this season which is only bettered by Southampton (63) and the three team currently in the relagation zone. (2 of whome are already relegated) 

I'd be shocked if they didn't strengthen in the defensive area. 

I think Coleman can still be awesome on his day but over a 50 game season I think he's beginning to struggle.
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Cyrus Christie and possibly Danny McNamara. With Doherty out injured I think he'll have to call up a third player who can play there just incase of injuries.

Ogbene and Sykes can fill in in a pinch but Ogbene is wasted there and Sykes is uncapped and might not even get a call up.
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I also fear Seamus' excellent career is winding down.

With Mattie injured, do we assume Coleman will be deployed as RWB for the upcoming matches?
Who are the backups for this role as I'd worry he can't play four games like this in close succession.
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He has been a major liability for them at times this season.

I cant see him being able to meaningfully contribute in the latter stages of the euros campaign.
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steady on there he is in the David Unsworth and Duncan Ferguson category.  Not in the same league as those lads who won leagues or scored tonnes of goals .  Everton are like they were in the mid 90s fighting relegation but with loads of money and ideas of grandeur with honest pros like Coleman who are past it and lads not trying a leg until relegation stared them in the face.  
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