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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

JB would like to see a Kevin Horlock or Steve Lomas type player come into the squad.


More an Ian bishop man myself.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

JB would like to see a KevOr qin Horlock or Steve Lomas type player come into the squad.
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Jamie Pollock could add something 


Cucurella from Brighton has been linked for left back 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Jamie Pollock could add something 


Cucurella from Brighton has been linked for left back 



Seen that about cucurella....but seems to be lukewarm talk about him coming.wonder what’s happening to mendy???surely he’s in breach of his contract and they can get him off the books??
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City have now won the premier League more then Chelsea. 7 behind United. Amazingly you could see them catching up in a decade or so.
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

City have now won the premier League more then Chelsea. 7 behind United. Amazingly you could see them catching up in a decade or so.

Coming up to a decade since SAF retired and apparently this season was their poorest return in 32 years (lest we forget that was the year that started it all). The neutral goal difference considering the sums spent on defenders over the past three years is remarkable, and while Ronaldo had a fairly good season,personally, it didn’t exactly help the cause. The gap between Man U and the Top Four has never been wider, let along getting back to winning titles.
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

City have now won the premier League more then Chelsea. 7 behind United. Amazingly you could see them catching up in a decade or so.
Did football start when the premier league started in 1992?
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Originally posted by jamo1 jamo1 wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

City have now won the premier League more then Chelsea. 7 behind United. Amazingly you could see them catching up in a decade or so.
Did football start when the premier league started in 1992?

Honestly, I don’t think there is any harm is discussing the PL in a vacuum, considering the seismic shift that has taken place in the past 30 years. For example, it was certainly noted when Oldham Athletic were relegated from League 2 last month to become the first ex-PL to fall into the non-leagues.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by jamo1 jamo1 wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

City have now won the premier League more then Chelsea. 7 behind United. Amazingly you could see them catching up in a decade or so.
Did football start when the premier league started in 1992?

Honestly, I don’t think there is any harm is discussing the PL in a vacuum, considering the seismic shift that has taken place in the past 30 years. For example, it was certainly noted when Oldham Athletic were relegated from League 2 last month to become the first ex-PL to fall into the non-leagues.
So if City win the next 7 titles they are level with United on titles won even though they are actually 12 behind United if you count non PL titles? Im a bit confused. And Leicester, Blackburn and Liverpool are tied on one even though Liverpool have 18 more titles than both?
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I’m unsure of your confusion. The original post refers to the PL. it’s specific, but after 30 years and the development and emerging of new forces it’s bound to generate discussion. Nobody said City would catch United in terms of titles won, but in terms of PL titles, the gap has closed.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The neutral goal difference [for Man U] considering the sums spent on defenders over the past three years is remarkable,
Amazing statistic: Since SAF retired, MU have only sold one player on for a profit, Daniel James - and that was more Leeds' misjudgement than MU's shrewdness.

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

... while Ronaldo had a fairly good season,personally, it didn’t exactly help the cause.
No doubt Ronaldo disrupted MU's shape/system over the season.

But in the end, there were so many other things screwing that team up that without CR's 18 PL goals, they'd actually have been worse off without him on a "net" basis (no pun intended).

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The gap between Man U and the Top Four has never been wider, let along getting back to winning titles.
Well after their glory days in the 1970's/80's, Liverpool went 30 years without another League title, so who's to say MU will be any different?

In the end, so long as MU continue to be a money-making machine regardless of how they do on the field, the Glazers won't sell other than for an eye-watering amount (nearer £10bn than £4 bn?).

And there are very few buyers out there who could/would shell out that amount AND plunge another billion on new players/management/systems AND the same again on rebuilding/replacing Old Trafford, at least before they start winning titles again..

Which means they're very likely stuck with the Glazers for another few years.

Oh dear.

How sad.

Never mind.


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Thing is there is no reason not to return to the top under the current administration. The amount of money spent, the types of managers employed, the advantages they’ve enjoyed, it’s unbelievable that but for holding onto Jesse Lingard they’d have actually finished in 7th place this term.
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City signing Kalvin Phillips for £45m, feel this is a signing similar to Ake and Grealish! Not someone who is going to improve their starting 11.
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That's just 20% of their budget for midfielders.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

City signing Kalvin Phillips for £45m, feel this is a signing similar to Ake and Grealish! Not someone who is going to improve their starting 11.


Definitely not a starting 11 player week in week out but a useful signing in that he can play a number of midfield positions and maybe even defensive positions to cover players....a good signing.
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I haven't seen that much of him but from what I have i don't really rate him. 
I'm sure if there's a position Pep knows about its midfield though and he can make a player of him. 

Jesus going to Arsenal for £45m also


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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

That's just 20% of their budget for midfielders.

2022 sales
Torres £55M
Jesus £45m
Bazunu £16m
Porro £7m

2022 signings
Haaland £52m
Alvarez £14m
Phillips £42m

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