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We could beat Scotland away and lose against Armenia at home and still finish 2nd. Should he be under pressure then?

My point being as long as we are not relegated then I think he will stave off any pressure and begin the next campaign. So that will only happen if we completely stink out the place and lose the next two games.

But as long as we get a result along the way that should be enough to ensure third.
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The Armenia game is the last game before the review, so if we balls up against them again then he will definitely be under pressure regardless of the Scotland game. There really can't be any more disasters against minnows at this stage, there have been too many already.

For what it's worth I'm confident we will beat Armenia at home comfortably, because they're absolutely terrible.
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Assuming Kenny keeps his job can we all agree next campaign that he’s not getting fired till the end of the campaign at the earliest and stop the constant ‘he’s under pressure if x y or z happens next game’?  
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Your friendly reminder that no matter what happens from here out this is already our most successful Nations League campaign ever
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Originally posted by shakeyshamrock shakeyshamrock wrote:

Your friendly reminder that no matter what happens from here out this is already our most successful Nations League campaign ever


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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by shakeyshamrock shakeyshamrock wrote:

Your friendly reminder that no matter what happens from here out this is already our most successful Nations League campaign ever


Up there with Italia 90


At least we won a game in the NL Tongue
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by shakeyshamrock shakeyshamrock wrote:

Your friendly reminder that no matter what happens from here out this is already our most successful Nations League campaign ever


Up there with Italia 90




At least we won a game in the NL Tongue


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Originally posted by BrenC BrenC wrote:

Assuming Kenny keeps his job can we all agree next campaign that he’s not getting fired till the end of the campaign at the earliest and stop the constant ‘he’s under pressure if x y or z happens next game’?  
No. Lose at home to Armenia - adios. Out of Euros after two games - adios. 
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i can't believe the FAI missed out on appointing Graham Potter as Ireland manager and sacking Kenny when they had the chance. They could have offered him a 100 year contract to match the 50 million he is getting for 5 years at Chelsea. 
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Granted, there were other bad results, and insipid performances, against minnows, but I note that Luxembourg currently lead Turkey away from home.

Adds a little bit of context to our loss anyways.
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Granted, there were other bad results, and insipid performances, against minnows, but I note that Luxembourg currently lead Turkey away from home.

Adds a little bit of context to our loss anyways.

Drew in the end 3-3, but I think it's probably fair to say that they have moved up from "minnow" to "potentially tricky" in recent years. Likely to finish 2nd in their NL Div C Group behind Turkey.
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Interesting that there not a load of debate in here about his time being up this time around. 

And some of the teams that he was slaughtered for, e.g. Luxembourg and Azerbaijan are getting results still off teams who would be similar to us (or arguably better) like Slovakia and Turkey. 

If course, those performances were we have lost were not good enough so he can't be absorbed of fault and bad performances should continue to be scrutinised but it was maybe not as absolutely disastrous in reality
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Interesting that there not a load of debate in here about his time being up this time around. 

And some of the teams that he was slaughtered for, e.g. Luxembourg and Azerbaijan are getting results still off teams who would be similar to us (or arguably better) like Slovakia and Turkey. 

If course, those performances were we have lost were not good enough so he can't be absorbed of fault and bad performances should continue to be scrutinised but it was maybe not as absolutely disastrous in reality

Could easily reignite with a bad result/performance vs Scotland, in which case the Armenia game becomes a relegation 6 pointer. Given the supposed break clause in his contract, it would be difficult for him to continue if we were relegated to Division C. Let's hope it doesnt come to that.

In general terms, there are a lot fewer genuine minnows around Europe these days with a lot of smaller Eastern European nations in particular investing heavily in their national football infrastructures. When you throw in the travel issues to some of the further flung destinations, it becomes increasingly difficult to pick up points away from home.
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Mark McCadden reporting that Kenny wants Brian Barry Murphy to be John Eustace's replacement.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Mark McCadden reporting that Kenny wants Brian Barry Murphy to be John Eustace's replacement.

Would be a fantastic choice. Whether he'd want it...he's been linked with Championship jobs himself in the recent past.
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Has a handy number with City but how would they feel about him doubling jobbing. Might want him staying around the club for international breaks. Different for Barry as most Chelsea senior players would be away on int duty.

You'd figure we'd get at least one qualifying campaign out of him

Actually I think Carsley had to leave his role with England because City didn't want him doubling jobbing.

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Would Kenny not just coach it himself?  
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He got most calls correct tonight. Team was set up very well and the right team picked.

He's had more time than most to build a squad. He's done that now. We have a decent young squad. But it's all building towards the Euro qualifiers in March. There's no more margin of error when those qualifiers start 
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