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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

Kenny's overall record is:
 

.........P.......W.....D.....L........F.....A

........18......3......8.....7......18...17


But since the Luxembourg debacle it is:


.........P.......W.....D......L........F.....A

.........8.......3......4.....1........15...6


We've played some poor teams, but hopefully this is more representative of things to come.

Dan McDonnell making a valid argument that bringing up results from 2020, instead of focusing on how we've done in 2021, in relation to a potential new contract for Kenny is as valid as bringing up the Macedonia result when discussing Mick qualifying for a WC 4/5 years later.

There has been progression, which is the most important. Games against Portugal shouldn't define whether any Ireland manager should continue in the job. I think we can all agree that there is more to come from both the players and management, but we're in a far better place than last year, so let's see where Kenny takes us.

The NL has taken on a new importance though, given Kenny has said the aim is now to top the group. So results in that absolutely do matter now. Because he's come out and said what the aim for the NL, whether he meant to or just got carried away, he won't be able to dismiss results if things don't go our way.

Bar McGoldrick, Kenny is still using the the same pool of players.  Kenny himself may have chosen different players but that was ultimately his decision.

Choosing only 2021 suits Kenny as it's in his favour, as results improved. 

Is that a fair analysis of his tenure by selecting specific date range? I wouldn't think so.



Ah I just think that 2020 was such a sh*tshow of a year when it came to the team getting together that we are only starting to see the progress being made in the last 2/3 international breaks.

Players weren't allowed train as a big group (I've heard this mentioned on a couple of podcasts but don't know how accurate it is). Players unable to mix properly as a team in the hotels. Playersbeing withdrawn from squads at the last minute through testing positive/being close contacts/not sitting in their designated seats on a plane. No fans in stadiums.

I just think 2021 should be the barometer, including the Luxembourg game in March. Has there been selection mistakes within that time? Yes. Have we had underwhelming performances? Yes. But we've also seen massive improvements in the team compared to 2020, most recently culminating in a couple of badly needed results.

I'm more than happy to wait until his contract is up before he is offered a renewal, but 2021 is the more accurate barometer of progression in terms of looking at his reign IMO.
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Was against his appointment but I'm coming around.
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Everyone at the game on Tuesday is fully behind Kenny and we have been good to watch since the summer. When is the last time we sold out a friendly? Kenny is the right man for the job and better days will come.

The thoughts of sacking Kenny and going back to route one bogball is going to undo all the hard work over the past 18 months. Rome wasn't built in a day and there are so many clear signs of progression.


There were boo's after the game against Azerbaijan - a game we certainly weren't good to watch in. A few days later Serbia should have put 4 or 5 past us, not great to watch either. I was pleased with the Serbia result but why do people continually need to rewrite history with Kenny?

As for the progression - sure the last two games have been very good, but have there been 'so many clear signs of progression'? Is two games enough to point to and say that everything is finally coming to fruition?

If Portugal put a few goals past us and we lose to Luxembourg after, nobody is going to give two sh*ts about a friendly v Qatar. The conversation looks a lot different then. Hopefully we are finally on the upward curve with Kenny, but to act like it's been obvious for months, or that he needs to be given a new contract now - is absolutely bizarre stuff. Lets wait and see.

What is bizarre is this post. It's the glass half full or empty debate.

Your questions are laughable and clearly you haven't watched games. 

I personally saw signs of progression away in Slovakia for the play off, we missed some chances and ultimately did enough to at least force extra time if not win the game. Add in that the prep was hampered by COVID, key players pulling out & the fact we couldn't travel in our thousands to support the lads really didn't help us, in fact he was unlucky.

He has played virtually all his games without fans - not a factor for a sh*te country but a massive factor for us when we travel in numbers and sell out our home ground. 

We travelled to Portugal - 7th best ranked team in the world FYI and had tactics. We had a game plan, gave it a go & should have won. At the very least held on for a draw. Did we ride our luck a bit? Of course we did but that's expected. Winning was never expected.

He has brought through how many players? Removed a lot of dead wood. Players like Hendrick & Duffy are almost like new players while he showed everyone that Coleman and Doherty can play together.

It takes time and patience but to say there hasn't been progress is baffling. Either you're blind or just read stuff on Twitter after every game and then post drivel.

The man is perfect for the job, he knows about the Irish set up, he knows about LOI and you know what - he knows football. Put some respect on the change in our setup and play. 663 passes the other night @ 92% accuracy.


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What you expect from an Ireland team is spirit and doggedness. A team that is difficult to play against and fights to the last minute.

Kenny was supposed to come in and make us use the ball better. We were going to finish 3rd, but do it better, as the joke went.

It didn't turn out like that though and there has been an awful flatness to a lot of our games, and we became easy to beat.

However, in the last while we have been much more lively. Even if the performances were poor, the team at least showed spirit - the Azerbaijan and Serbia home games.

In the last two games, we've had the spirit and added some quality football too. It has come together at last. The question now is can he keep the momentum going.

The performance against Portugal will matter more than the result. And if we play against Luxembourg as we did against Azerbaijan and Qatar, then we should win that game.

That will see Kenny comfortably into another contract.

But the flatness has to be eliminated.
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A big problem with the earlier SK teams is that, yes, we were trying to play passing football but were doing it in the wrong areas, not creating much and even looking quite shaky at the back.

What seems to have changed recently is we look much more positive and creative and are very good in the final third of the pitch - the earlier teams looked goal shy and rarely tested the keeper. Noticeable too that chances are coming just as much from open play, not just set pieces.
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

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There were boo's after the game against Azerbaijan - a game we certainly weren't good to watch in. A few days later Serbia should have put 4 or 5 past us, not great to watch either. I was pleased with the Serbia result but why do people continually need to rewrite history with Kenny?

As for the progression - sure the last two games have been very good, but have there been 'so many clear signs of progression'? Is two games enough to point to and say that everything is finally coming to fruition?

If Portugal put a few goals past us and we lose to Luxembourg after, nobody is going to give two sh*ts about a friendly v Qatar. The conversation looks a lot different then. Hopefully we are finally on the upward curve with Kenny, but to act like it's been obvious for months, or that he needs to be given a new contract now - is absolutely bizarre stuff. Lets wait and see.

I think the “should have” is a moot point, we should have put a few past Slovakia and we didn’t - we take the result on its merit and move on.

Progress has been slow but if you’re taking results for what they are, not should haves or would haves, they have been encouraging since the June break (bar Azerbaijan at home!!)
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Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Everyone at the game on Tuesday is fully behind Kenny and we have been good to watch since the summer. When is the last time we sold out a friendly? Kenny is the right man for the job and better days will come.

The thoughts of sacking Kenny and going back to route one bogball is going to undo all the hard work over the past 18 months. Rome wasn't built in a day and there are so many clear signs of progression.


There were boo's after the game against Azerbaijan - a game we certainly weren't good to watch in. A few days later Serbia should have put 4 or 5 past us, not great to watch either. I was pleased with the Serbia result but why do people continually need to rewrite history with Kenny?

As for the progression - sure the last two games have been very good, but have there been 'so many clear signs of progression'? Is two games enough to point to and say that everything is finally coming to fruition?

If Portugal put a few goals past us and we lose to Luxembourg after, nobody is going to give two sh*ts about a friendly v Qatar. The conversation looks a lot different then. Hopefully we are finally on the upward curve with Kenny, but to act like it's been obvious for months, or that he needs to be given a new contract now - is absolutely bizarre stuff. Lets wait and see.

What is bizarre is this post. It's the glass half full or empty debate.

Your questions are laughable and clearly you haven't watched games. 

I personally saw signs of progression away in Slovakia for the play off, we missed some chances and ultimately did enough to at least force extra time if not win the game. Add in that the prep was hampered by COVID, key players pulling out & the fact we couldn't travel in our thousands to support the lads really didn't help us, in fact he was unlucky.

He has played virtually all his games without fans - not a factor for a sh*te country but a massive factor for us when we travel in numbers and sell out our home ground. 

We travelled to Portugal - 7th best ranked team in the world FYI and had tactics. We had a game plan, gave it a go & should have won. At the very least held on for a draw. Did we ride our luck a bit? Of course we did but that's expected. Winning was never expected.

He has brought through how many players? Removed a lot of dead wood. Players like Hendrick & Duffy are almost like new players while he showed everyone that Coleman and Doherty can play together.

It takes time and patience but to say there hasn't been progress is baffling. Either you're blind or just read stuff on Twitter after every game and then post drivel.

The man is perfect for the job, he knows about the Irish set up, he knows about LOI and you know what - he knows football. Put some respect on the change in our setup and play. 663 passes the other night @ 92% accuracy.


Laughable? - your response barely makes a lick of sense.

We followed up that Slovakia result with a series of woeful performances and results so whatever progress there was in that game was short lived.

Which 'deadwood' did he remove exactly?

"without fans - not a factor for a sh*te country but a massive factor for us when we travel in numbers and sell out our home ground." - This is unquantifiable nonsense, plenty of international teams enjoy strong home and away support.

"Players like Hendrick & Duffy are almost like new players" - Hendrick is absolutely a fair point given he isn't up to much at club level, but are you actually crediting Shane Duffys resurrection to Kenny? His club manager who trains him day in day out had nothing to do with it?

"while he showed everyone that Coleman and Doherty can play together." - Coleman and Doherty started together twice under Kenny. We lost both games - yes they did well v Portugal but the other defeat was the home defeat to Luxembourg. That's conclusive alright - literally making my point for me about the hyperbolic praise afforded to Kenny. 

"he knows about the Irish set up" - His knowledge of Irish players compared to his predecessors is certainly better so yeah, credit for that - I'm not sure if that is what you meant by set up.
"he knows about LOI" - How is that even remotely relevant when he doesn't call up any player in it? LOL

"and you know what - he knows football." - I expect many Dunfermline and Rovers fans disagree with that.

"663 passes the other night @ 92% accuracy." - We played some very nice football the other night, it was just one night in a friendly vs a poor side. We also created lots of chances v Azerbaijan. Hopefully we can maintain that level or close to it. Lets see how we do going forward.

Your post is so over the top about Kenny it's ridiculous - completely blind to any failure and completely hyperbolic regarding any success. He has had challenges with Covid like every other international manager. He has brought through some players, absolutely. He has also presided over many poor performances and even poorer results.

The most recent two games were extremely positive and welcome - however it might be worth just waiting to see whether that standard will be maintained going forward. Lets see if we finish off the group strongly, and if we do I don't think there would be anybody begrudging him a crack at Euro 2024.


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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

A big problem with the earlier SK teams is that, yes, we were trying to play passing football but were doing it in the wrong areas, not creating much and even looking quite shaky at the back.

What seems to have changed recently is we look much more positive and creative and are very good in the final third of the pitch - the earlier teams looked goal shy and rarely tested the keeper. Noticeable too that chances are coming just as much from open play, not just set pieces.


The current formation is by far our most effective with the players we have available but we were still creating plenty of chances playing 4-3-3 too. Enough to win games had we taken our chances.

One big difference was an out for form Duffy at the back, himself and Egan had a very shakey start under Kenny at the back the coincided with Duffys worst period at Celtic. It also impacted the threat he poses from headers in the box. I know he scored one against Bulgaria in the Nations League, but there were probably 2 dozen other chances in the games that he ballooned over or wide that you'd have banked on him at least getting on target if not scoring one or two more.

Another big difference was his over reliance on McCarthy, Brady, Arter and Hendrick. He bigged all these players up in interviews leading up to his time in charge and the period surrounding the Nations League. That he firmly believed he could get them all back to their best for us. I think he put far too much of an emphasis on being able to pull it off and it couldnt have gone much worse.

What he had pictured in his head for months leading up to taking over and trying to implement it and make it come to fruition just didn't happen and he needed to go back to the drawing board.

As I said, 3-4-2-1 has proven to be very effective in creating chances. Hes also got an in form Duffy back and flashes off the old Jeff Hendrick. Cullen has found his feet at this level and has replaced McCarthy better than most could have anticipated. Coleman is back to his best when fit. Doherty has finally shown an interest in playing for us. Hes got his creative spark in midfield with McGrath. But most importantly he has found a goalscorer who knows where the back of the net is. Up to this point nobody knew where to play Robo. Hes played 7,10 and 11 but rarely a 9. No doubt where hes suited to.

Not to mention the intigrated and blooding of Bazunu, Kelleher, O'Shea, Omobamidele, Collins, Knight, Ogbene, Idah, Parrott, Connolly.

It took awhile but its all just begining to come together.
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Everyone at the game on Tuesday is fully behind Kenny and we have been good to watch since the summer. When is the last time we sold out a friendly? Kenny is the right man for the job and better days will come.

The thoughts of sacking Kenny and going back to route one bogball is going to undo all the hard work over the past 18 months. Rome wasn't built in a day and there are so many clear signs of progression.


There were boo's after the game against Azerbaijan - a game we certainly weren't good to watch in. A few days later Serbia should have put 4 or 5 past us, not great to watch either. I was pleased with the Serbia result but why do people continually need to rewrite history with Kenny?

As for the progression - sure the last two games have been very good, but have there been 'so many clear signs of progression'? Is two games enough to point to and say that everything is finally coming to fruition?

If Portugal put a few goals past us and we lose to Luxembourg after, nobody is going to give two sh*ts about a friendly v Qatar. The conversation looks a lot different then. Hopefully we are finally on the upward curve with Kenny, but to act like it's been obvious for months, or that he needs to be given a new contract now - is absolutely bizarre stuff. Lets wait and see.

What is bizarre is this post. It's the glass half full or empty debate.

Your questions are laughable and clearly you haven't watched games. 

I personally saw signs of progression away in Slovakia for the play off, we missed some chances and ultimately did enough to at least force extra time if not win the game. Add in that the prep was hampered by COVID, key players pulling out & the fact we couldn't travel in our thousands to support the lads really didn't help us, in fact he was unlucky.

He has played virtually all his games without fans - not a factor for a sh*te country but a massive factor for us when we travel in numbers and sell out our home ground. 

We travelled to Portugal - 7th best ranked team in the world FYI and had tactics. We had a game plan, gave it a go & should have won. At the very least held on for a draw. Did we ride our luck a bit? Of course we did but that's expected. Winning was never expected.

He has brought through how many players? Removed a lot of dead wood. Players like Hendrick & Duffy are almost like new players while he showed everyone that Coleman and Doherty can play together.

It takes time and patience but to say there hasn't been progress is baffling. Either you're blind or just read stuff on Twitter after every game and then post drivel.

The man is perfect for the job, he knows about the Irish set up, he knows about LOI and you know what - he knows football. Put some respect on the change in our setup and play. 663 passes the other night @ 92% accuracy.


Laughable? - your response barely makes a lick of sense.

We followed up that Slovakia result with a series of woeful performances and results so whatever progress there was in that game was short lived.

Which 'deadwood' did he remove exactly?

"without fans - not a factor for a sh*te country but a massive factor for us when we travel in numbers and sell out our home ground." - This is unquantifiable nonsense, plenty of international teams enjoy strong home and away support.

"Players like Hendrick & Duffy are almost like new players" - Hendrick is absolutely a fair point given he isn't up to much at club level, but are you actually crediting Shane Duffys resurrection to Kenny? His club manager who trains him day in day out had nothing to do with it?

"while he showed everyone that Coleman and Doherty can play together." - Coleman and Doherty started together twice under Kenny. We lost both games - yes they did well v Portugal but the other defeat was the home defeat to Luxembourg. That's conclusive alright - literally making my point for me about the hyperbolic praise afforded to Kenny. 

"he knows about the Irish set up" - His knowledge of Irish players compared to his predecessors is certainly better so yeah, credit for that - I'm not sure if that is what you meant by set up.
"he knows about LOI" - How is that even remotely relevant when he doesn't call up any player in it? LOL

"and you know what - he knows football." - I expect many Dunfermline and Rovers fans disagree with that.

"663 passes the other night @ 92% accuracy." - We played some very nice football the other night, it was just one night in a friendly vs a poor side. We also created lots of chances v Azerbaijan. Hopefully we can maintain that level or close to it. Lets see how we do going forward.

Your post is so over the top about Kenny it's ridiculous - completely blind to any failure and completely hyperbolic regarding any success. He has had challenges with Covid like every other international manager. He has brought through some players, absolutely. He has also presided over many poor performances and even poorer results.

The most recent two games were extremely positive and welcome - however it might be worth just waiting to see whether that standard will be maintained going forward. Lets see if we finish off the group strongly, and if we do I don't think there would be anybody begrudging him a crack at Euro 2024.
The reality is that a loss to Portugal and a failure to beat Luxembourg, then the narrative swings again. When you are winning you're safe. But hopefully something has changed, we've had a few false dawns previously. 
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He literally called up Jamie McGrath - that was a result of knowing the Irish league Ermm

Who else would have pulled him in? 

A friendly v a poor side? They're ranked higher than us and Asia champions.

Duffy is of course down to both managers but he could have been dropped and left out etc - he wasn't - and he was trusted by Kenny including with the armband.

To say no fans hasn't impacted us is just nonsense.

It's just hard with lads like yourself but anyways. This forum is toxic.
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He literally called up Jamie McGrath - that was a result of knowing the Irish league Ermm

Jim Goodwin has publicly said that he had to convince Kenny that McGrath had improved significantly since his LoI days so that he'd call him in. So he was effectively called up in spite of Kenny knowing the League of Ireland, not because of it.
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Goodwin quote on Jamie

"I didn't have to convince Stephen Kenny too much about Jamie getting into the squad and I did say to Stephen a couple of seasons ago that Jamie isn't the player that he was when he was at Dundalk. I've felt he's took his game to a whole new level and sometimes it's hard to convince somebody who's worked with him so closely to change their opinion on him and I'm glad Stephen's included him and I thought Jamie was absolutely brilliant against Portugal and he was outstanding in fact.

https://www.rte.ie/s/soccer/2021/1007/1252383-jim-goodwin/ - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/1007/1252383-jim-goodwin/
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He literally called up Jamie McGrath - that was a result of knowing the Irish league Ermm

Who else would have pulled him in? 

A friendly v a poor side? They're ranked higher than us and Asia champions.

Duffy is of course down to both managers but he could have been dropped and left out etc - he wasn't - and he was trusted by Kenny including with the armband.

To say no fans hasn't impacted us is just nonsense.

It's just hard with lads like yourself but anyways. This forum is toxic.


I don't know how you can claim a manager who called up a player in Scotland is evidence of him knowing the LOI. It's like saying because Trappatoni called up Coleman and McClean, and both had previously played LOI - that Trap knew about the LOI.

There is definitely an argument to be made in support of Kenny regarding calling him up and starting him is something another manager would not have done - although what he was doing was not working, moreso than any manager we have ever had, and he needed to try something different.

You're hardly trying to claim that Qatar are a good side, please. We did well, absolutely - some of the play we put together was among the best we have seen in years - but why pretend that Qatar are better than they are? You can be happy with a performance and acknowledge the oppositions weakness at the same time.

"Duffy is of course down to both managers but he could have been dropped and left out etc - he wasn't" - More rewriting of Kenny history. Shane Duffy was dropped for us. He was dropped for the two qualifiers in March.

"To say no fans hasn't impacted us is just nonsense." - If you'd like to point out where I said that, then please, by all means. My point was that every international team has had to deal with Covid, including the disruption with players and the loss of fans.My issue was with you claiming that we were more affected than other teams - based on nothing. I don't know how you can claim that having no fans affected us more than any other team - as I said before, plenty of international teams have strong support. To act like Kenny was almost solely affected by this stuff isn't reality. Having no fans did impact us, it impacted most nations.

"It's just hard with lads like yourself but anyways. This forum is toxic." - Unless a person is relentlessly, blindly positive towards Stephen Kenny then they are toxic on here. Or if they don't accept history being rewritten to support a narrative that wasn't there - toxic. It's a forum. People debate issues. People have differing opinions. Occasionally people get passionate about those opinions because ultimately everybody wants to see Ireland succeed, and people have differing opinions about how we do that. Writing off discussion by saying X or Y is toxic because they don't agree with your opinion - well why post at all?

The last two performances were very good - one of them featured a ton of chances created and the other was the best we have played in years. While acnowledging that, it's normal to take into account the other games under Stephen Kenny which were often poor, and it is worth just taking the standard of opposition into account. If we continue on this trajectory (of just 2 games) then yes, the future is looking bright, Kenny will get the Euros - however maybe we should just wait and see how the campaign finishes off.


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The 20% sure make enough noise! Bar in the stadium etc obviously 

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The 20% sure make enough noise! Bar in the stadium etc obviously 


Well there were boos after the Azerbaijan match. Wink

And if you're referring to me then I'm happy to see Kenny get the Euros depending on how the final two group games go.

Although I'll have to say my 10 hail Marys now because I said something not over the top positive about Kenny.
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What I find amusing is the double standard when people revert to world rankings and say oh we should be beating them e.g. Luxembourg, then when we beat a team ranked higher than us i.e. Qatar - it's all oh they are a poor side, rankings are wrong etc. Fwiw I think Qatar and Luxembourg are of similar ability despite the 50 place difference in the rankings.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 9fingers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 10:24am
Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

The 20% sure make enough noise! Bar in the stadium etc obviously 


Well there were boos after the Azerbaijan match. Wink

And if you're referring to me then I'm happy to see Kenny get the Euros depending on how the final two group games go.

Although I'll have to say my 10 hail Marys now because I said something not over the top positive about Kenny.
I’m talking about the endless negative drivel posted here by a small minority, and I’m sure it was a small minority booing against Azerbaijan too. 
People criticizing SK is fine, I’ve done it plenty here, last Saturday for example in the first 45 we were wide open & playing quite poorly despite being 2 up. 
It’s just the constant sh*te from the same posters, rehashing the same nonsense. 
As I said yesterday if it’s not results it’s performances, if it’s not performances it’s results, if it’s neither it’s his wages. Then you have his accent etc. 
it’s repetitive, it’s mostly nonsense, it doesn’t speak for the large majority of posters and it has ruined this thread. 
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Do people want Kenny out based on his Dublin accent? That's a new one to me.
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