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grannyrule ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: Parts Unknown Status: Offline Points: 4651 |
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Go the Paul Cook route and see how he does then. His only venture outside the league of Ireland ended up with getting sacked by Dunfermline. For me, his record isn't any better than someone like Pat Fenlon apart from better football.
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notpropaganda73 ![]() Davey Langan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Donegal Status: Offline Points: 866 |
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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/stephen-kenny-i-am-absolutely-qualified-to-take-ireland-job-1.3707568
Some great quotes from him here in my opinion. He obviously has a huge amount of self-belief, would love to see him get it
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Strazdas ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5289 |
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There are definite risks with an LOI manager but I think people are nearly focusing in on all the negatives and ignoring the positives. He's nearly 50 years old and has been managing (successfully) for two decades. It's not as if he is some clueless rookie who hasn't a clue.
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doherty ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6952 |
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thats all true but and this is coming from a LOI fan there would be a big step up. let be honest, that does not mean hes wouldnt be able to do it. if he got it he would have to come up against some big team with some serious players. its a measure of the guy that he is in the frame for the top job. no one knows if it would be too big for him unless he got it. he might be the best thing since sliced bread.
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Hans Moleman ![]() Roy Keane ![]() ![]() Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Been at it a long time. Massively experienced, highs and lows tbf, but still clearly hugely hungry. Of course the national team is another step up but imo he's well capable. In saying that I don't expect him to have us looking like a proper team within a couple of games, if he comes in now (I don't think he's any chance of getting it now, McCarthy seems the perfect fit for the FAI). It will take time for anyone to fix the mess left behind, and with those potential playoffs to come no matter how we do in qualifying, once there were clear signs of progress going into those playoffs, that would be enough for me (probably not for the majority though, and it's why I could see McCarthy being an utter disaster). If I were Kenny though I'm not sure I'd take it on a short term contract, which is what I'm guessing will be offered to McCarthy. He needs a longer term contract with a bigger remit than just the senior team, possibly a say in the U21s, U19s appointments, or a director of football position with Kenny having a say in such an appointment. For that to happen I think his hand would be far stronger in 18 months time, if whoever comes in now does badly. Either way, it would be a massive gamble for Kenny to take it on any sort of short term contract. He has a great gig at Dundalk and if he leaves that and it doesn't work out, where to from there?
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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grannyrule ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: Parts Unknown Status: Offline Points: 4651 |
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Mick is hardly going to take a short term contract. If Mick was the manager and we qualified for the euros there is no way he is just going to give it up then. He would definitely want a World Cup campaign too at the very least. Edited by grannyrule - 23 Nov 2018 at 3:03pm |
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Strazdas ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5289 |
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A lot of good points here. If McCarthy does get it, there should be some way of integrating Kenny into the system and being given the nod that he is next in line to manage the team : being 'groomed' for the role so to speak. Everything about McCarthy getting it would suggest it was a quick fix solution for 2020 but there's a lot to be said for paving the way for Kenny.
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doherty ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6952 |
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i do find the love for Kenny a little over the top. if you just came from mars and read all the media coverage you would swear he won 6 champions leagues. if he lost 4 or 5 of his first games people would be saying he was never up to it anyway. i bet they would. i'm not against him getting the job as i have said in quite a few posts but some of the love for him is over the top. like i said earlier half of the people who are screaming for him now were probably never at a LOI game and would laugh at it most weekends.
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pre Madonna ![]() Robbie Keane ![]() ![]() I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I would have been on the fence before reading that, it's a no now. A distinct lack of pragmatism and realism.
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grannyrule ![]() Ray Houghton ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: Parts Unknown Status: Offline Points: 4651 |
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This. Reminds me of how Sean Gallagher almost became President a few years back. The media got behind him, his name was pushed to the moon, nobody really knew why they wanted him, he almost did it and now looking back the majority are delighted it didn't happen.
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Cabra Hoop ![]() Roy Keane ![]() Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10486 |
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If Guardiola was a Dubliner you'd find fault......
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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doherty ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6952 |
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it seems every tom dick and harry are hell bent on kenny or no one. in reality if you put his credentials beside Mick's or Big Sams then he should not even be in the race. And by credentials i mean the level they have all coached at. now i'm not saying he shouldnt get the job but the way some people are going on you would swear hes some sort of messiah that will transform the national side into a second Dundalk. And im a fan of his.
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Denis Irwin ![]() Robbie Keane ![]() ![]() Stay Home & watch Lethal Weapon Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Location: Ath Cliath Status: Offline Points: 37673 |
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If Mick wasn't Irish I wonder would their be such a clamour from others for him. A lazy quick fix appointment nothing more than that.
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9fingers ![]() Paul McGrath ![]() ![]() Ballymun Resident #MONKEANO Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 15678 |
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He also got Dunfermline to a cup final, beat a very good Rangers side and while there he was awarded person of the year by the Irish soccer journo awards. He also got Longford promoted and to a cup final. He got Derry and Bohs to cup finals You’d swear his management career read BLANK relegated Dunfermline BLANK Dundalk |
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Devrozex ![]() Jack Charlton ![]() Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 7655 |
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Big time. A real missed opportunity.
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Cabra Hoop ![]() Roy Keane ![]() Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10486 |
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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notpropaganda73 ![]() Davey Langan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Donegal Status: Offline Points: 866 |
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Ara jesus what a comparison I just think Kenny has done some great work in club football, even his failure at Dunfermline included a cup run. He makes the right noises (imo) and has Dundalk playing good football. He talks about structures and tactics and instructions to players. Maybe the bar is low but that is good stuff to hear. That's not to say it's Kenny or bust, I just think he'd be an exciting appointment. It's not as if the talk about him is baseless ffs
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9fingers ![]() Paul McGrath ![]() ![]() Ballymun Resident #MONKEANO Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 15678 |
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His greatest achievement nearly....
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