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Eighteen years after Saipan, Mick McCarthy steps down after his second stint as Ireland manager. Good wishes and comments abound. Not always the case though . . .  

“You’re a liar, you're a f**king w**ker. I didn’t rate you as a player, I don’t rate you as a manager and I don’t rate you as a person. You’re a f**king w**ker and you can stick your World Cup up your arse. I’ve got no respect for you. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are the manager of my country. You can stick it up your b***ocks.” 

Good luck, Mick, from Keano - national hero, eloquent pundit, champion walker.




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* Would Keane at his peak have been capable of playing in teams of which he wasn't captain? How long would he have lasted before someone was told to "stick it up yer bo**ox" as our hero walked off? 

* Would he have survived on skill levels alone in Ferguson's Man Utd heyday?

I believe the answer to both questions is "NO".
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Yes 
If he had gone to Juve or Bayern he would have to.

Yes.
Stupid comment in my opinion.
His first touch was immaculate, as good as Bergkamp etc
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

* Would Keane at his peak have been capable of playing in teams of which he wasn't captain? How long would he have lasted before someone was told to "stick it up yer bo**ox" as our hero walked off? 

* Would he have survived on skill levels alone in Ferguson's Man Utd heyday?

I believe the answer to both questions is "NO".
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Keane may not has been a flashy player, but the idea that he was a bog standard footballer who dragged his way to the top via force of will alone is completely inaccurate. He was highly technically proficient, his first touch was outstanding and his passing was nothing less than pinpoint. He also chipped in with a good amount of goals from midfield, particularly in the early-to-mid part of his career.
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

* Would Keane at his peak have been capable of playing in teams of which he wasn't captain? How long would he have lasted before someone was told to "stick it up yer bo**ox" as our hero walked off? 

* Would he have survived on skill levels alone in Ferguson's Man Utd heyday?

I believe the answer to both questions is "NO".
You certainly provide humour in these dark days!
And you, as usual, provide f*ck all.
 

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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Yes 
If he had gone to Juve or Bayern he would have to.

Yes.
Stupid comment in my opinion.
His first touch was immaculate, as good as Bergkamp etc
 
It's the opinion of John Giles, a big admirer of Keane (the player), that his overall skill-set was good rather than great. You can disagree, of course, but calling it a stupid comment is stupid.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Keane may not has been a flashy player, but the idea that he was a bog standard footballer who dragged his way to the top via force of will alone is completely inaccurate. He was highly technically proficient, his first touch was outstanding and his passing was nothing less than pinpoint. He also chipped in with a good amount of goals from midfield, particularly in the early-to-mid part of his career.

No one would float the idea he was bog-standard for chrissakes. His greatest assets were will-to-win and never-say-die leadership. His overall passing range beyond a few metres wasn't always elite. Yes, of course he had good first touch - it's the EPL. I consider him to have been a great player, but I don't get carried away in the red and green mist. 

PS: Your updates on Irish players abroad are always interesting. I saw (below) in Balls.ie a few days ago - I doubt it adds anything beyond your coverage. 



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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Keane may not has been a flashy player, but the idea that he was a bog standard footballer who dragged his way to the top via force of will alone is completely inaccurate. He was highly technically proficient, his first touch was outstanding and his passing was nothing less than pinpoint. He also chipped in with a good amount of goals from midfield, particularly in the early-to-mid part of his career.

No one would float the idea he was bog-standard for chrissakes. His greatest assets were will-to-win and never-say-die leadership. His overall passing range beyond a few metres wasn't always elite. Yes, of course he had good first touch - it's the EPL. I consider him to have been a great player, but I don't get carried away in the red and green mist. 

PS: Your updates on Irish players abroad are always interesting. I saw (below) in Balls.ie a few days ago - I doubt it adds anything beyond your coverage. 


His passing range beyond a few metres wasn't always elite LOL sweet suffering jaysus. You really are a complete moron pandering that nonsense. Nonsense that unfortunately a good few people seem to believe. Keane was the best central midfielder in the world for a 3-4 year period bar none, even counting the likes of Zidane, Ballack, and many other incredible players in differing midfield roles at that time.

It is amazing to hear this buffoonery about Keane being some sort of Glenn Whelan type huffer and puffer still to this day.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

* Would Keane at his peak have been capable of playing in teams of which he wasn't captain? How long would he have lasted before someone was told to "stick it up yer bo**ox" as our hero walked off? 

* Would he have survived on skill levels alone in Ferguson's Man Utd heyday?

I believe the answer to both questions is "NO".
You certainly provide humour in these dark days!
And you, as usual, provide f*ck all.
 

FFS what age are ye. Going into McCarthy fan boy mode at 4 in the morning!
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Keane may not has been a flashy player, but the idea that he was a bog standard footballer who dragged his way to the top via force of will alone is completely inaccurate. He was highly technically proficient, his first touch was outstanding and his passing was nothing less than pinpoint. He also chipped in with a good amount of goals from midfield, particularly in the early-to-mid part of his career.

No one would float the idea he was bog-standard for chrissakes. His greatest assets were will-to-win and never-say-die leadership. His overall passing range beyond a few metres wasn't always elite. Yes, of course he had good first touch - it's the EPL. I consider him to have been a great player, but I don't get carried away in the red and green mist. 

PS: Your updates on Irish players abroad are always interesting. I saw (below) in Balls.ie a few days ago - I doubt it adds anything beyond your coverage. 


His passing range beyond a few metres wasn't always elite LOL sweet suffering jaysus. You really are a complete moron pandering that nonsense. Nonsense that unfortunately a good few people seem to believe. Keane was the best central midfielder in the world for a 3-4 year period bar none, even counting the likes of Zidane, Ballack, and many other incredible players in differing midfield roles at that time.

It is amazing to hear this buffoonery about Keane being some sort of Glenn Whelan type huffer and puffer still to this day.

I know they're both midfielders but I don't think you can really compare Keane with Zidane as they've different skillsets and could effect games in different ways. Both would have walked into any World XI in their prime. Vieira/Mascherano/Makelele would be more comparable with Keane imo.
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Keane's technical ability was excellent, rarely gave a ball away, passed to feet more often than not. Could he pass like pirlo? No. 

When Keane was at his very best, the man United midfield consisted of two wide attacking players in Giggs and Beckham, an attacking midfielder in Scholes. All worked hard to get back but were very attack focused.

The united team had confidence enough to let Keane do the heavy lifting in one of the best midfields at the time.

The semi final vs Juventus was a 10/10 performance. He was the best player on a pitch with Zidane, Davids, scholes etc etc.

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Was Keane one of the all time great world players?  No 

Was he one of the all time great Irish players? Yes. 

If he wasn’t Irish who would you compare him with?
Kante? Davids? Rakatic? Gerrard? Deschamps? Souness? Grace Jones?




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I was quite young when Keane was in his prime for Ireland. Not too young to watch the games, but too young to think about what was happening. Had the chance to watch some of the games back during lockdown, ireland's 2002 qualifying campaign is online. He did it all for us. He was our main attacking outlet as well as defensive. He was, most importantly, our one truly elite player that we could hold up to the likes of Davids and Figo coming to Dublin, and he made them shrink in those games. They didn't want it. They weren't thinking about coming here to roll over little Ireland. They were thinking oh bollox, i've to go try and influence a game against Roy Keane in this match.

There are a lot of things i don't agree with Roy Keane on. He's damaged his legacy in many people's eyes. But we'll be waiting a long time to see a talent like that again.

Re the previous question, if he wasn't irish i'd compare him with someone like Gattuso or De Rossi. A true fearsome enforcer, one of the world's best, who could certainly play when he had to. Nobody in the modern game. He genuinely was the last of his kind.


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Very surprised Roy agreed to interview with Barry Egan of the Sindo. Didn't think he'd be Roy's cup of tea. 



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Originally posted by ontheball ontheball wrote:

Very surprised Roy agreed to interview with Barry Egan of the Sindo.


Roy managed to spend 5 years in a job without finding reason to criticise John Delaney (another good mate of Barry Egan). Either Roy is a self-serving individual or he’s part of the Egan/Delaney clique.
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