From off the ball over the weekend a writer from sunderland said neither Keane or MON are tracksuit managers, will walford then completely run the training sessions ?

the journo dismissed walford as the Gene Hunt of coaching

 

what exactly will keane do ? scout players for sure, help pick the team for sure,

perhaps he will get more involved in actually coaching in this role ?

 

Idont want this to descend into saipan i want a discussion on the role itself of assistant manager to MON. from what i saw in wimbledon on that sunday morning tardelli did absolutely nothing except have the craic with everyone.

 

will move any saipan or negative stuff to the other thread so dont bother.

 

 

It seems like he's getting paid 500k to be no more than a consultant and perhaps someone O'Neill can bounce ideas off of.

 

that was a complete mess, no chance i reckon.

 

It's little stuff like that which will be strange. When they emerge from the tunnel next week all the focus will be on our assistant manager. 

Keane will have to go with Mick McCarthy look in shorts 

I rate Keane tactically, whilst I really don't with O'Neill - He's far too stubborn and sworn by the 

4-4-1-1 formation while Keane is a 4-4-2 guy so Keane might have something to offer then but other than that as said before his ITV punditry - Half time talks or performance reviewing is the only other things I can think he can do.

 

in the history of football  eh its a thread with 10 posts

 

I told you already i think tardelli did fck all, whats wrong with wanting to know what MON has in store for him ? perfectly valid question.

 

also i am not the only one who thinks things started to go TU with Trap when brady left.....

 

 

not exactly james mccarthy to scotland though is it ?

 

Why would Keane have  input into grass roots football when Liam Brady, someone who has actually experience working in youth development didn't have any input?

 

All the lads will be concerned about is looking after the senior team and trying to achieve the best possible results.

In the past few years he was paid to give an opinion on television. In the next few years he's getting paid to assist Martin O'Neill and he'll give everything to the cause.

 

because it will be his job ,

 

2 different factions in here and both are blinded

 

some cant get keanes dick out of their mouths and the others are too biased to give him any respect at all.

 

i am interested to see what he will do , oneill asked for him i believe, they might give this a right go.

its exciting times and lads cannot enjoy it becuase they are too busy defending their hero / too busy sl*gging off their hate figure.

 

 

clive clarke , absolute disgrace what he said when the lad nearly died.

 

I actually cant wait for the games now

Brian Kerr said the exact opposite to what HB said there in his interview on RTE yesterday. He said his knowledge of Irish players and underage players and amateur players was excellent and that was when he was a player. 

I'd imagine his commitment to Arsenal

Quite right there the Rolo. He put himself before the good of the country. 

We also know that Roy has often not been so tolerant of 'auld stalwarts, which to some extent, has been one of O'Neill's failings, so perhaps this will be one negative or positive (depending on who's viewing it) that Keane will bring.

Not getting in to the exact nature of the Given situation.  But in principle it is as bad for a player to declare himself fit when he knows he is not as it is to "feign" injury as you call it  Neither is better or worse than the other in my view.  

Where'd you meet him Baldy? What did he have to say?

 

mcateer did it as well in japan , its completely out of order but players do it , managers need to be on the ball in these cases as well.

 

It was a conversation on the Dart, but he certainly comes from a very technical background where appreciation of the football and for the technical skills of the game are high in his agenda.  He does also believe that football does need to be about winning also and that sometimes teams can be naive to think it is only about style especially in the professional game  Celtic V Ajax as an example.  

He was impressed with the technical ability of many of our players having worked with them for the recent internationals.  

Lads digging up stuff from years ago in every conversation

Does it never wear thin and can you not just put the sh*te into the past and look forward for the sake of the team?

Dunphy said it could be a spectacular train wreck

And we wonder why we never succeed

It seems no matter who we bring in their head is on the chopping block from day 1 were getting worse than our neighbours for sl*gging managers

 

if MON had come alone there would be little of this , RMK brings baggage.

 

 

Keane scouting the players could be a very good thing i think.

 

Hes not the manager lads

Look how many different assistants fergie had- there was one common denominator

People are getting too hung up on keane 

 

 

fck ya

 

 

Was Patterson not already capped by OWC ?

Looking forward to hearing him on Liveline in 10 minutes along with TJ

The Rory Patterson i think. He plays for Derry and the North of Ireland

Why was he brought up in this discussion? Cant find a post about him? 

I don't get the Gene Hunt analogy.. Care to explain?

 

I am sure poor old Steve wont stand for any off keanes w**kery 

 

No, its a godawful sad affair.

To be fair that is just one mans opinion.   May or may not be close to reality  

 

well it looks like ken earlys quotes of stubbsys book ties in with it exactly , thats 2 sources.

 

I think they will both be there on the pitches.This isnt club management.He will only see the players for a few days before a game and then theyre gone again

The mood swings are talked about and how it affected everybody in the dressing room from physio etc.  

 

While I can agree that Given should have given an honest appraisal of his fitness situation I can understand anyone being desperate to play for their country. What I will never understand is a player saying he is unfit to play for his country and then playing a full game for his club the next day (on 1 occasion) and 2.5 days later (on other occasions).

 anyone disagree with this?

keane was 20 years of age and in an irish squad that had a huge drink culture, that was an end of season mickey mouse friendly tour. delaney is a middle aged man and is the chief executive of a football association and was at a major football tournament.  In the book the woman attacked him first, and some knob head dublin fan had a go at him. but yeah keep bringing up stuff from the early nineties.