North of Ireland Politics

Jackal wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: They're going to tell London they're collapsing Stormont unless the protocol is changed according to senior unionist sources tonight I thought it was over the language bill?

Newryrep wrote: reddladd wrote: What's the real problem with Poots? Not hardline enough? Loyalism/unionism has nobody with balls to tell them a few home truths - leadership is leading the clue is in the first part - not just populist rubbish harking back to the time when they ran the show

it seems to me the only loyalist/unionists who are looking into the future and recognise what’s coming down the line ….. are those connected with crime and are positioning themselves as the voice of the disenfranchised but will be happy to take some mullah / be allowed to operate as we want ….in exchange to staying quite

9fingers wrote: Some performance from Regina Doherty on TonightVMTV. Hard to know who was the hardline Unionist, Herself or Wells

John Briton not wheeled out? 

Dalymount79 wrote: Sham157 wrote: Dalymount79 wrote: Newryrep wrote: reddladd wrote: What's the real problem with Poots? Not hardline enough? Loyalism/unionism has nobody with balls to tell them a few home truths - leadership is leading the clue is in the first part - not just populist rubbish harking back to the time when they ran the show  it seems to me the only loyalist/unionists who are looking into the future and recognise what’s coming down the line ….. are those connected with crime and are positioning themselves as the voice of the disenfranchised but will be happy to take some mullah / be allowed to operate as we want ….in exchange to staying quite ”in exchange to staying quite” ...... quite what? quit quite quiet   I always get them mixed up

ffs  if you had have typed “in exchange for staying quite” id have copped it.

Roberto Baggio wrote: What’s a new leader going to do? The Irish language act is being passed westminister have confirmed  And the EU are hardly changing the Brexit protocol at this stage

Also, and I was chatting to someone earlier about this, surely at some point (maybe behind the scenes they have or are doing so) they will start to grate London and burn bridges? Are we approaching the day where The PM of said day starts to publicly denounce Northern Unionism?

Sham157 wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: What’s a new leader going to do? The Irish language act is being passed westminister have confirmed  And the EU are hardly changing the Brexit protocol at this stage  Also, and I was chatting to someone earlier about this, surely at some point (maybe behind the scenes they have or are doing so) they will start to grate London and burn bridges? Are we approaching the day where The PM of said day starts to publicly denounce Northern Unionism?

zizu Kilbane wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: What’s a new leader going to do? The Irish language act is being passed westminister have confirmed  And the EU are hardly changing the Brexit protocol at this stage  Could be in for a rocky summer. Wee Seamie wants to bring the UVF down for parade in Dublin, not to provoke anyone he says! Can't see that going any other way than when Willie Frazer tried the same years ago.  Violence is the only hand that Loyalism has left to play and that's worrying

indeed. And you would worry also about the will to face up to it by the ‘security services’ up there if it did kick off big style. Could be left to London again, and that worked well the last time.

Sham157 wrote: 9fingers wrote: Sham157 wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: What’s a new leader going to do? The Irish language act is being passed westminister have confirmed  And the EU are hardly changing the Brexit protocol at this stage  Also, and I was chatting to someone earlier about this, surely at some point (maybe behind the scenes they have or are doing so) they will start to grate London and burn bridges? Are we approaching the day where The PM of said day starts to publicly denounce Northern Unionism? Rees Mogg gave em a little dressing down today anyway  Didnt see that. Playing catch up a bit Painting bastard garden fence panels most of the day

Ben is perpetually furious, it's unionism's default mode. A lot of the anger in the backwoods is incoherent and there are parallels with the ill-fated 'fleg' protests, except Seamie Beag and the other sh*tstirrers aren't getting as many on the streets. The violence card has its limitations. The mainstream paramilitaries are reluctant to get involved. They have other priorities such as drug rackets and ripping off government grants, also they are riddled with touts from top to bottom so liable to be decimated very quickly if they kick it off, with some out on licence now going back to jail, this time for the rest of their natural. There will be no collusion from the Brits this time as it no longer suits their national interests to have loyalists killing people. Some young idiots outside the mainstream may well go to clink, as with the 'fleg' protests, but there you go, Darwin was right. The DUP pantomime will go on with Sir Jeffrey getting his turn this time. Marvellous entertainment, Game Of Thrans as someone recently called it. Might listen to Nolan on the radio this morning for the laughs.

Edited by Green Cockade - 18 Jun 2021 at 6:24am