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What I find baffling about King being appointed as the interim manager is the fact the 21's are playing Romania away on the same day as the Germany match in a crucial qualifier. Not very professional at all by the FAI but no surprise with that really. Could understand if the 21's were out of the running for qualification but the group is only two games old.
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Originally posted by El_nino El_nino wrote:

What I find baffling about King being appointed as the interim manager is the fact the 21's are playing Romania away on the same day as the Germany match in a crucial qualifier. Not very professional at all by the FAI but no surprise with that really. Could understand if the 21's were out of the running for qualification but the group is only two games old.


Ya thought Dokter may have taken the senior role for that reason

Wonder what squad Brady will be in
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Originally posted by El_nino El_nino wrote:

What I find baffling about King being appointed as the interim manager is the fact the 21's are playing Romania away on the same day as the Germany match in a crucial qualifier. Not very professional at all by the FAI but no surprise with that really. Could understand if the 21's were out of the running for qualification but the group is only two games old.
 
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What message does that send across to lads in the U21s. Not good.
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

It's a pity we didn't get the new manager in for these two games but not the end of the world either.Would King be generally thought off well in regards to players? Never met him.Anyone know him or met him?


Noel will be respected by most of the players, it's a no win situation for the FAI, given the U21s have a big game the same night, but there really was no other person IMO on the FAI payroll to take the role.

His squad will be interesting, i reckon we will see Stokes and Andy Reid back but no Darren Gibson.

From my limited knowledge he is a great motivator, and would love to se him bring Jack Grealish into the squad for the Kazak game for experience if nothing else.
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Lets just say O Neill doesnt want to take over until the next two games are over. Is that really the type of manager we want?
What kind of signal does that give to the players?

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Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

Lets just say O Neill doesnt want to take over until the next two games are over. Is that really the type of manager we want?
What kind of signal does that give to the players?

very good point 
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Think this is a silly appointment.  As has been said it pulls the rug from under the U-21's who have a crucial qualifier and I don't see why the FAI need to take so long to appointment someone.  One month is long enough to research and interview surely. 
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Surely they could've appointed Doolin caretaker rather than pulling the rug from under the U-21's
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Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

Lets just say O Neill doesnt want to take over until the next two games are over. Is that really the type of manager we want?
What kind of signal does that give to the players?

Losing by 5,6 or 7 goals in his first match wouldnt do him much good either. Media would be on his back after the first game.
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Originally posted by El_nino El_nino wrote:

What I find baffling about King being appointed as the interim manager is the fact the 21's are playing Romania away on the same day as the Germany match in a crucial qualifier. Not very professional at all by the FAI but no surprise with that really. Could understand if the 21's were out of the running for qualification but the group is only two games old.

 
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What message does that send across to lads in the U21s. Not good.


It means if your good enough you'll get promoted to the Senior squad - just like the manager.
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Originally posted by greenarmy greenarmy wrote:

Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

Lets just say O Neill doesnt want to take over until the next two games are over. Is that really the type of manager we want?

What kind of signal does that give to the players?


Losing by 5,6 or 7 goals in his first match wouldnt do him much good either. Media would be on his back after the first game.


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Originally posted by El_nino El_nino wrote:

What I find baffling about King being appointed as the interim manager is the fact the 21's are playing Romania away on the same day as the Germany match in a crucial qualifier. Not very professional at all by the FAI but no surprise with that really. Could understand if the 21's were out of the running for qualification but the group is only two games old.


As if they will be our main concern when the seniors are in Cologne
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The game there will be an endurance test. It's the worst possible fixture for a new coach to begin, and surprise surprise, there's not many takers. So at least Kinger won't be under any pressure to get a result. If/when we get battered, he can simply go back to his main job, out of the public eye.
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Originally posted by savo01 savo01 wrote:

Think this is a silly appointment.  As has been said it pulls the rug from under the U-21's who have a crucial qualifier and I don't see why the FAI need to take so long to appointment someone.  One month is long enough to research and interview surely
 
would ye rather they just appoint somebody purely for the sake of it cos of the time-frame?..I'd rather let them take their time, and get somebody that can actually do a job for us!
 
whats the point / rush in having somebody in for these two qualifiers? we're out of qualifying - fair enough, the new manager may have gotten to have a look at our squad, but now he's not there, he can have a look next Spring in the friendlies..no hurry!
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Originally posted by greenarmy greenarmy wrote:

Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

Lets just say O Neill doesnt want to take over until the next two games are over. Is that really the type of manager we want?
What kind of signal does that give to the players?

Losing by 5,6 or 7 goals in his first match wouldnt do him much good either. Media would be on his back after the first game.

thats not true, everyone would understand... theres invaluable experience going to be wsted by not having our next manager in place come these matches
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Ya dont have to rush in but its been two weeks since he was sacked... and the match is in two weeks. So 1 month is adequate time to find a replacement who fits the bill

All this suffers to do is kick the can down the road, so at the start of the next campaign the manager already has his escuses of not having enough time to get to know th eplayers etc... Whereas if we appointed the now, that escuse wouldnt be tolerated...

Its penny pinching by the FAI and not for the benefit of the national side
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Wesser777 I just think that there's been a good time frame to look around and do a thorough interview process. 
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

thats not true, everyone would understand... theres invaluable experience going to be wsted by not having our next manager in place come these matches


Invaluable experience of what? How does getting a battering in your very first game help anyone, or get the players to believe in the new coach?

The next two games are completely meaningless and a new coach would learn nothing positive from them. Get them over with, and allow the new man a clean slate for starting the new campaign.

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