New Trap concerns

planning wrote: Citizen wrote: How can i answer a question that is impossible to answer?! you address the failings in the system or threat of the opposition at the given time. Not simply have a blanket one (or even two) size fits all approach You can answer the question because it's not impossible. I'll ask you again. What happens if your "have a go hero" tactic goes wrong? If we go all-out attack v Sweden and lose 0-3, how do you justify it? We've already seen one home game this campaign where "having a go" led to three goals going in our net without reply in just 15 minutes. That's also what the Nordies, the Welsh, and the Scots do, and why their campaigns are cooked well before now. In that case, we don't run around like a tacticless pub team, and play with more haste, less speed. It's why we're still in the mix, and why any result bar a loss on Friday, still keeps us in the picture for the flight to Brazil.

hav u read that permutations thread lad?
we need to win on friday to keep our hopes in our own hands.

Citizen wrote: planning wrote: Citizen wrote: How can i answer a question that is impossible to answer?! you address the failings in the system or threat of the opposition at the given time. Not simply have a blanket one (or even two) size fits all approach You can answer the question because it's not impossible. I'll ask you again. What happens if your "have a go hero" tactic goes wrong? If we go all-out attack v Sweden and lose 0-3, how do you justify it? We've already seen one home game this campaign where "having a go" led to three goals going in our net without reply in just 15 minutes. That's also what the Nordies, the Welsh, and the Scots do, and why their campaigns are cooked well before now. In that case, we don't run around like a tacticless pub team, and play with more haste, less speed. It's why we're still in the mix, and why any result bar a loss on Friday, still keeps us in the picture for the flight to Brazil. there is just no talking to you. Also what game did we have a go when 3 goals went in? Germany? You must be having a laugh! I'm beginning to think you are a WUM.

I assume he is correctly referring to the start of the second half against Germany where ireland did indeed "have a go". A striker replaced a defensive midfielder and we adopted a much more artacking shape. We were promptly butchered with three quick fire goals to make it five nil.

Modern football (particularly international and european football) is as much about not conceding as it is about scoring.

Edited by eire77 - 03 Sep 2013 at 11:09am

eire77 wrote: Citizen wrote: planning wrote: Citizen wrote: How can i answer a question that is impossible to answer?! you address the failings in the system or threat of the opposition at the given time. Not simply have a blanket one (or even two) size fits all approach You can answer the question because it's not impossible. I'll ask you again. What happens if your "have a go hero" tactic goes wrong? If we go all-out attack v Sweden and lose 0-3, how do you justify it? We've already seen one home game this campaign where "having a go" led to three goals going in our net without reply in just 15 minutes. That's also what the Nordies, the Welsh, and the Scots do, and why their campaigns are cooked well before now. In that case, we don't run around like a tacticless pub team, and play with more haste, less speed. It's why we're still in the mix, and why any result bar a loss on Friday, still keeps us in the picture for the flight to Brazil. there is just no talking to you. Also what game did we have a go when 3 goals went in? Germany? You must be having a laugh! I'm beginning to think you are a WUM. I assume he is correctly referring to the start of the second half against Germany where ireland did indeed "have a go". A striker replaced a defensive midfielder and we adopted a much more artacking shape. We were promptly butchered with three quick fire goals to make it five nil. Modern football (particularly international and European football) is as much about not conceding as it is about scoring.

Sorry, are you referring to the kamikaze tactics of bringing long on for fahey and going 4-4-2, when we were 2-0 down? going for one less in midfield against arguably one of the best midfield's in international football. That was a stroke of genius alright. Recklessly chasing a game is in all intents and purposes not 'having a go'. 

Edited by Citizen - 03 Sep 2013 at 11:43am

Seems this lunatic is actually thinking about starting Cox on the wing.....said yesterday was mulling over starting Walters and Cox on the wings and Robbie.
Not sure does this mean Long is on bench....BUT IF Trap starts Cox again on the wing we WILL lose.

Well said Claret. Im the first to have a moan about Trap but these are two massive games. 

The Italian still seemed to be mulling over his options yesterday, mentioning the possibility of playing with three strikers (Simon Cox, Robbie Keane and Jon Walters) or two (Shane Long and Keane) with a fit Pilkington more likely to feature if he goes with the latter.

In the Irish times, think he will go for long Keane rather than cox walters etc

Edited by seanyshuffler - 03 Sep 2013 at 12:08pm