Mipo Odubeko

File in the Luca Connell and Armstrong Okoflex category 

He doesn't want to play for us so who cares. 

How is he affiliated to us? On a technicality because he was born here? He's literally made himself unavailable to play for us. It doesn't get any more cut and dry than that.

If we're being realistic, he belongs in the same category as Dennis Cirkin until things change.

It's crazy for the likes of him and Obafemi to be turning down Ireland Under 21 call ups given how their club careers are going.

Elbouzedi got himself a career changing move to Sweden off the back of his Under 21 performances. These lads aren't as far as they might like to think they are from being in the same position as Elbouzedi was less than a year ago - making no impression at a League 2 club and in need of a break to save his career.

I'm interested to hear why Okoflex has been thrown into the mix on this discussion regarding Odubeko. Was Okoflex (and his father) "desperate to play for" England? Or just "proactive about initiating an Intl future with England"? And what is the evidence for the latter- I have just seen uncertain and ambiguous comments from years ago, followed by call ups to our under 19 and 21 squads. 

That is correct. And has since played for us. Same as Anthony Scully I think. And plenty other lads with underage England caps like Josh Cullen and Callum Robinson. 

I'm aware of that snafu on Okoflex's part. It's pretty obvious that he wasn't aware the eligibility rules would rule him out of playing for England when he moved to Celtic. I'm pretty sure he's kicking himself about that now. His father as well. His father has been very influential in representing him all through his teenage years and has made evasive and vague comments about Okoflex's Intl future in the past. Statements from Okoflex's dad weren't/aren't hard to find BTW. The chap used to edit Armstrong's Wikipedia page himself!

Not sure why Scully, Robinson and Cullen are being brought up by the usual suspect(s) to try and muddy the waters now. Robinson and Cullen are ours. They've already played for us the mandatory # of times and, in any case, weren't good enough to play for England. Scully, likewise, isn't good enough to play for England and has been ignored by them at underage level but, in fairness to him, is fairly cut and dry about wanting to play for us.

Odubeko has repeatedly turned down call-ups, ignored communications with Crawford, and has got his agent to make non-committal statements about his future. Okoflex displayed zero interest in playing for us until he discovered the eligibility rules made him ineligible for England, and going by the last squad gathering, still has a take it or leave it attitude about playing for us.

All this has been covered already but a refresher is no harm.

Not jumping to any conclusions, but then again you already know that. It's based on past actions and statements from Crawford. It's already well known that he wasn't aware the eligibility rules would rule him out when he moved to Scotland and were only discovered after the fact. He found out when everyone else did.

Not sure why this is such a  repeated sore point for you. 

You'd think you would've finally learned your lesson the first time after all your pontificating about Odubeko blew up in your face.

As YTM mentioned, the situations of Cullen, Robinson and Scully have absolutely no relevance to the discussion re: Odubeko and Okoflex and are only brought up in a clear attempt to obfuscate things by you. Again.

That's his Mexican cousin.