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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

That's f**king gas. Mick the Tree McCarthy 


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Think his time at Ipswich could be coming to an end.

Under pressure with his meh season and 2-1 down to conference side Lincoln in the FA Cup.


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Ended 2-2 but id say he might not be there much longer.
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I know a couple of Ipswich season ticket holders and they say the fans have wanted him out for most of the season as they don't like his route 1 football. I think a lot of Ipswich fans are slightly deluded and living in the past, they don't seem to realise that Ipswich have one of the smallest budgets in the division and that he is constantly papering over the cracks. He replaced Murphy with Leon Best as an example. The football might not be pretty but it can be hard to play like Barcelona on a limited budget
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I know a couple of Ipswich season ticket holders and they say the fans have wanted him out for most of the season as they don't like his route 1 football. I think a lot of Ipswich fans are slightly deluded and living in the past, they don't seem to realise that Ipswich have one of the smallest budgets in the division and that he is constantly papering over the cracks. He replaced Murphy with Leon Best as an example. The football might not be pretty but it can be hard to play like Barcelona on a limited budget

Ipswich fans are completely aware that they've been financially broke ever since that debut season in the Premier League in the 90's, I had to research what's actually gone so badly wrong for them this season but it appears it's the whole of 2016 where things have started going wrong not just since August. I found the following;

0.8 goals per game in 2016
29/36 games at Home without scoring within the first 55 minutes

I'm not gonna lie, it looks pretty bleak regardless what financial situation you're in.
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Well their owner marcus evans isnt short of a few pound. Hes loaded.
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Well their owner marcus evans isnt short of a few pound. Hes loaded.

He bought that huge debt off and charges interest on the club!

No wonder they're so skint when their Chairman is siphoning any reserves into his pocket!
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I know a couple of Ipswich season ticket holders and they say the fans have wanted him out for most of the season as they don't like his route 1 football. I think a lot of Ipswich fans are slightly deluded and living in the past, they don't seem to realise that Ipswich have one of the smallest budgets in the division and that he is constantly papering over the cracks. He replaced Murphy with Leon Best as an example. The football might not be pretty but it can be hard to play like Barcelona on a limited budget

Have it on pretty good authority that when Daryl Murphy left Ipswich, he wasn't expecting McCarthy to last much longer there, due to behind the scenes issues (nothing to do with that particular transfer, they got on well & presumably still do to an extent, more to do with with general financial issues at the club). 

That squad/team has stagnated, in his 4 and a bit years, Mick has got them into the playoffs a few times, then was forced to sell his better players (likes of Mings & Murphy), I think the remainder of the mainly experienced championship pros & quite possibly McCarthy himself, have realised they aren't good enough to go any further, in effect, he is a dead man walking, no fault of his own, but it seems to be just a matter of timing at this stage as to when the inevitable divorce occurs. 

Mick has enough credit in the bank to pick up another job at some point, especially in a division he has generally done exceptionally well in, as for Ipswich & their fans, ya couldn't be quite as sure. Be careful what ya wish for & all that. 




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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I know a couple of Ipswich season ticket holders and they say the fans have wanted him out for most of the season as they don't like his route 1 football. I think a lot of Ipswich fans are slightly deluded and living in the past, they don't seem to realise that Ipswich have one of the smallest budgets in the division and that he is constantly papering over the cracks. He replaced Murphy with Leon Best as an example. The football might not be pretty but it can be hard to play like Barcelona on a limited budget


Have it on pretty good authority that when Daryl Murphy left Ipswich, he wasn't expecting McCarthy to last much longer there, due to behind the scenes issues (nothing to do with that particular transfer, they got on well & presumably still do to an extent, more to do with with general financial issues at the club). 

That squad/team has stagnated, in his 4 and a bit years, Mick has got them into the playoffs a few times, then was forced to sell his better players (likes of Mings & Murphy), I think the remainder of the mainly experienced championship pros & quite possibly McCarthy himself, have realised they aren't good enough to go any further, in effect, he is a dead man walking, no fault of his own, but it seems to be just a matter of timing at this stage as to when the inevitable divorce occurs. 

Mick has enough credit in the bank to pick up another job at some point, especially in a division he has generally done exceptionally well in, as for Ipswich & their fans, ya couldn't be quite as sure. Be careful what ya wish for & all that. 






Yeah, if and when McCarthy goes, I'd expect Ipswich to end up in a relegation scrap. He's done exceptionally well with zero budget there, I don't think anyone would do any better and think whoever succeeds him will undoubtedly do worse.
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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I know a couple of Ipswich season ticket holders and they say the fans have wanted him out for most of the season as they don't like his route 1 football. I think a lot of Ipswich fans are slightly deluded and living in the past, they don't seem to realise that Ipswich have one of the smallest budgets in the division and that he is constantly papering over the cracks. He replaced Murphy with Leon Best as an example. The football might not be pretty but it can be hard to play like Barcelona on a limited budget

Have it on pretty good authority that when Daryl Murphy left Ipswich, he wasn't expecting McCarthy to last much longer there, due to behind the scenes issues (nothing to do with that particular transfer, they got on well & presumably still do to an extent, more to do with with general financial issues at the club). 

That squad/team has stagnated, in his 4 and a bit years, Mick has got them into the playoffs a few times, then was forced to sell his better players (likes of Mings & Murphy), I think the remainder of the mainly experienced championship pros & quite possibly McCarthy himself, have realised they aren't good enough to go any further, in effect, he is a dead man walking, no fault of his own, but it seems to be just a matter of timing at this stage as to when the inevitable divorce occurs. 

Mick has enough credit in the bank to pick up another job at some point, especially in a division he has generally done exceptionally well in, as for Ipswich & their fans, ya couldn't be quite as sure. Be careful what ya wish for & all that. 




Yeah that seems to be the size of it, Mick isn't going to throw the towel in and they won't sack him for as long as possible. Within six months of him leaving they will probably want him back as they find themselves heading for league one.
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He's been unlucky that he's never got to manage a side with a strong academy with a stream of players coming through. He is pretty poor in the transfer market. I can't think of one outstanding signing he made at Millwall, Wolves, Sunderland or Ipswich although to be fair, he has never had a huge budget to work with. The effect he has had at every club he has managed has fizzled out after a few seasons. He won't struggle to get another job but I can't see him turning things around now at Ipswich unless there is a major cash injection. 
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He's been unlucky that he's never got to manage a side with a strong academy with a stream of players coming through. He is pretty poor in the transfer market. I can't think of one outstanding signing he made at Millwall, Wolves, Sunderland or Ipswich although to be fair, he has never had a huge budget to work with. The effect he has had at every club he has managed has fizzled out after a few seasons. He won't struggle to get another job but I can't see him turning things around now at Ipswich unless there is a major cash injection. 


I agree with you generally, although you'd have to say McCarthy has done very well with signings at Ipswich. He brought Murphy and McGoldrick back from the dead and they nearly got him back in the premier league. He's generally poor with a transfer budget though.
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Originally posted by KING-CON KING-CON wrote:

He's been unlucky that he's never got to manage a side with a strong academy with a stream of players coming through. He is pretty poor in the transfer market. I can't think of one outstanding signing he made at Millwall, Wolves, Sunderland or Ipswich although to be fair, he has never had a huge budget to work with. The effect he has had at every club he has managed has fizzled out after a few seasons. He won't struggle to get another job but I can't see him turning things around now at Ipswich unless there is a major cash injection. 

Eh. Managing clubs on peanuts money is his area of expertise. 
What he did at Sunderland is so extremely under-rated that anyone who plays it down does deserve a slap across the face.
The job he took on was a club about 18 months away from administration, which would lead to penalties, assets being sold off left right and centre just to keep the club in the black never mind in the Championship and with those resources he managed a FA Cup semi-final and a Promotion the following season, forget the Premiership and what happened that season, the TV money alone actually saved the club from disaster.

He had his chance to deal with proper investment at Wolves.

He needs a Chairman who is willing to invest some cash back into the club, not some businessman who charges interest on a club already in 9 figures of debt.

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