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Originally posted by TonyGawks TonyGawks wrote:

Emmet Malone twitter:

News that Martin O'Neill, Keane and the rest of the backroom staff will be at the Soccer Writers' annual bash in Dublin this evening generally being taken by the membership as sign he is staying on. He hadn't been expected to attend until this morning.

O'Neill refusing to take questions from the press at the event. JD taught him well.
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Think he is entering deeper into dead man walking territory, which he was on the fringes of after the Denmark game anyway. Can remember saying after Euro 2012 that the following campaign would be  negative & miserable with the inevitable outcome of Trap going at some point during it, as it happened he held on longer than I thought he would, but I don't see MON around in March 2019 for the qualifiers. 

We are probably facing the worst possible situation with MON & the job now, he stays on for the moment, we have a series of indifferent friendly results, the usual mix of the good, bad & rubbish, and he ends the regular football season in charge. In September or October, QSF gets sacked after losing 5 Stoke games in a row (or some other manager at another middle/lower EPL club) and they come back for MON, leaving us with no manager facing into the games that some lads on here insist are qualifiers, even if nobody outside of here really believes they are. 

New manager has to be sought a short notice, could end up with anyone at all depending on who is available, and has little time to prepare for the real qualifiers. It looks like I'm painting the worst possible picture, but it isn't an outlandish scenario whatsoever, especially as the media and certain sections of the fans will generally be negatively disposed to MON from the Turkey game onwards. 

The FAI probably won't mind too much as they would get compensation, which is probably the thing that exercised them most this week. 





 


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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by TonyGawks TonyGawks wrote:

Emmet Malone twitter:

News that Martin O'Neill, Keane and the rest of the backroom staff will be at the Soccer Writers' annual bash in Dublin this evening generally being taken by the membership as sign he is staying on. He hadn't been expected to attend until this morning.

O'Neill refusing to take questions from the press at the event. JD taught him well.

Why the f**k was he there?
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I read earlier today that this dinner he went to he had told them early this week he wouldn't be attending (presumably he thought he was getting the stoke job or was anticipating further discussions) and then when he's not being offered the job tells them he will be attending after all.  Bit of a hard neck on him. 

Is this fella getting paid by us to whore himself to Everton and Stoke? 

And people called Trap a charlatan.  
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The Scots have agreed a financial package for Michael O'Neill.

Get off yer arses FAI and get talking to him before they miss another one..
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Definitely think MON has been very disrespectful this week. To enter into this verbal agreement which is farcical to begin with, was one thing but for him to be now using us as a plan B is very poor form. It is leaving us in limbo. He either wants to be our manager or he doesnt. All this almost waiting for something else to come up but with us to fall back on is getting on my nerves.
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

The Scots have agreed a financial package for Michael O'Neill.

Get off yer arses FAI and get talking to him before they miss another one..


I thought that talk had cooled and he was staying.  Terry won't be pleased.  Lawrie Sanchez returns!
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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Definitely think MON has been very disrespectful this week. To enter into this verbal agreement which is farcical to begin with, was one thing but for him to be now using us as a plan B is very poor form. It is leaving us in limbo. He either wants to be our manager or he doesnt. All this almost waiting for something else to come up but with us to fall back on is getting on my nerves.


It's like bringing a bird out on a date, then when its your round you go to the bar for drinks and meet a better looking girl, try to chat her up for 30 mins then when you get the elbow stroll back to the original bird where she is waiting with the drinks in your hand as if nothing happened.


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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

While he technically didn't do anything wrong, he really hasn't done himself any favours here and it definitely won't help redeem his reputation among the fans. Imagine the reaction from the fans/media if he stays on, and we lose the next 2 competitive games.

And once again the FAI come out of a situation looking like the amateurs they are. I'd actually forgotten MON hadn't signed his last contract until after the Serbia away game. 


Can't believe that when he signed his last contract hasn't come up over the last week. What happened this week wasn't anything new.

Can't believe anyone would have expected him to tackle the issue tonight either, that was never gonna happen. He has massive confidence in how he handles the media, he doesn't give a fcuk.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Definitely think MON has been very disrespectful this week. To enter into this verbal agreement which is farcical to begin with, was one thing but for him to be now using us as a plan B is very poor form. It is leaving us in limbo. He either wants to be our manager or he doesnt. All this almost waiting for something else to come up but with us to fall back on is getting on my nerves.


It's like bringing a bird out on a date, then when its your round you go to the bar for drinks and meet a better looking girl, try to chat her up for 30 mins then when you get the elbow stroll back to the original bird where she is waiting with the drinks in your hand as if nothing happened.






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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Definitely think MON has been very disrespectful this week. To enter into this verbal agreement which is farcical to begin with, was one thing but for him to be now using us as a plan B is very poor form. It is leaving us in limbo. He either wants to be our manager or he doesnt. All this almost waiting for something else to come up but with us to fall back on is getting on my nerves.


It's like bringing a bird out on a date, then when its your round you go to the bar for drinks and meet a better looking girl, try to chat her up for 30 mins then when you get the elbow stroll back to the original bird where she is waiting with the drinks in your hand as if nothing happened.






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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

While he technically didn't do anything wrong


Hmmmm, would Stoke not have needed permission from the Fai to approach him? He might not have signed a contract but if he's still taking a wage from the Fai, he's still an employee.
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I'd be interested to know if any money based on the new contract has changed hands? I can't imagine he took charge for the Serbia away game without getting paid. Not sure on the legalities of it all, but if he took a payment, then surely he's in breach of contract?
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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Definitely think MON has been very disrespectful this week. To enter into this verbal agreement which is farcical to begin with, was one thing but for him to be now using us as a plan B is very poor form. It is leaving us in limbo. He either wants to be our manager or he doesnt. All this almost waiting for something else to come up but with us to fall back on is getting on my nerves.


It's been like that since the day Trap was sacked in Vienna. He wanted a club job then, he wants a club job now. Nothing has changed.

Verbal agreements suit everyone while they are honoured. One of the most infamous examples was Schumacher's verbal agreement with Eddie Jordan to race for his team in 1991. After one race, a rival team signed him up on a proper contract. Schumacher went on to win 7 Formula 1 titles, more than anyone in the sport's history. Eddie Jordan is now a tv pundit.

That's the insanity of "verbal contracts". Sign it on paper or prepare for the consequences.
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I really do think the verbal contract was the smart thing to do. It tied no party into been bound to eachother in case things changed and it looks like they have changed with results and this farce.

Out it this way At least o'Neill hasn't sign it the way trap did and hung out for the compo.

O'Neill has never been one of those managers either. He's either totally committed or out the door
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

I really do think the verbal contract was the smart thing to do. It tied no party into been bound to eachother in case things changed and it looks like they have changed with results and this farce.

Out it this way At least o'Neill hasn't sign it the way trap did and hung out for the compo.

O'Neill has never been one of those managers either. He's either totally committed or out the door


So where do we stand now?
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

I really do think the verbal contract was the smart thing to do. It tied no party into been bound to eachother in case things changed and it looks like they have changed with results and this farce.

Out it this way At least o'Neill hasn't sign it the way trap did and hung out for the compo.

O'Neill has never been one of those managers either. He's either totally committed or out the door


This the same manager who went for the Leicester job in 2015 and went to an interview at Everton a while back and has whored himself to Stoke this week?  And Sideshow Keane went all out for the Celtic job only he didn't like the pay, only to then take a job with Villa.

Yes, these guys are more committed alright and aren't in it for the money at all.
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