Martin O'Neill...

Those gobsh*tes will somehow come up with a reason for saying "yes". 

Edited by Mr. Snrub - 21 Aug 2017 at 2:22pm

Citizen wrote: horsebox / trap junior  do you honestly think (without bias ) that Trap has done a better job than O'neil?  yes or no?

Ask me after this campaign.  Trap got 2 2nd place finishes.  O'Neill has got 1  3rd place and this has yet to be determined.

Trap junior wrote: Citizen wrote: irishmufc wrote: GB 1HughJarse wrote: 1874eire wrote: Trap should have gone after the Euros, crazy keeping him in charge after that. Didn't he sign a contract extension before the Euro 2012 finals? If we somehow have of had a decent Euro finals tournament, and Trap went elsewhere after it because someone else had offered him a job, people would have been screaming from the rooftops about the stupidity of the FAI. 2010 missed out to France playoff. 2012 qualification. #Hindsight Spot on.  Regardless of how the Euros went and we were never going to get out of that group no matter who was in charge, Trap deserved at least another campaign.  Bottom line is we were successful under Trap up until then and any unlikely progress made out of that Euro 2012 group was seen as a bonus. People also seem to forget that we were unlucky in that first game against Croatia, had decisions go against us and players individual mistakes cost us badly in at least 2 of the games. Trap can't be blamed entirely for Euro 2012 imo.  Ask Welsh, Scottish and N.I. fans if they'd have taken Trap's approach and qualification in their wilderness years.  only reason he got a full extension was the FAI fuccked up and didnt include an extension clause for the tournament, so they had to offer him a full two year deal results were not the problem, the performances, team selection, preparation, tactics. it was not bad it was an actual embarrassment to be honest.   we got to the tournament only beating macedonia and then estonia in a playoff. how many teams can say that. We got to the quarter finals of the 1990 world cup beating nobody and playing dire stuff.  We qualified for Euro88 beating only Scotland and Luxembourg. We got to 1994 by beating only Nothern Ireland, Lithuania, Latvia and Albania. We got the last 16 of the 2002 WC by beating only Saudi Arabia.   We should write those all off as flukes and they should be struck off our record. O'Neill's performances have been toxic for the most part.

We beat Bulgaria too.

Gashley Grimes wrote: FREEWHEELER wrote: We qualified for the 1990 WC with 7 clean sheets out of 8, only losing to Spain 0-2 in Seville, we were absolutely rampant as a result of Euro 88 and the tournament we really deserved to go to, was Euro 92 where we'd have definitely competed strongly.   This group is on a knife-edge. I remember we had a major injury crisis for that game and Kevin Moran played midfield and think it might have been Steve Staunton's debut.   Went to all those home games in that qualification as a youngster - we were superb beating Spain 1-0 thanks to Michel. The NI home game was one of the best ever atmosphere's @ Lansdowne Road. We were at our peak for Euro '92 a real shame we didn't make it.   As my learned friend has stated this current group is all to play for.

Citizen wrote: hardly the same thing is it? scotland were hardly like Scotland now? who else was in the group belgium, bulgaria?

That group was a 5 team group featuring 3 of the sides that had just come back from the WC, one of them a semi finalist that finished 3rd. Getting out of the group was a massive achievement, when you either won the group or stayed at home. The only time we ever won a group.

By contrast, we got to the last Euros by finishing third in the group for the first time ever and the second round of the finals by finishing third in the group for the first time ever, while losing half the games, by conceding double the goals scored. Mediocrity at best.

As his long ball fest, one shot at home policies are not getting the likes of West Brom and Wolves beating a path to his door atm, he would like to hang around here until he finds something better. If he does.

Bollocks

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planning wrote: we got to the last Euros by finishing third in the group for the first time ever.....

Edited by planning - 21 Aug 2017 at 5:25pm

trap got us 2 the euro's however do you remember the group we were in to qualify and how we played in that group?..then we got Estonia in the play offs...best not mention how we played in the tournament itself..M.O.N. by a country mile..

Martin O'Neill has set Irish football back 30 years

horsebox wrote:   Do you remember who we got in 2012? The 2 finalists and a very strong Croatia side.