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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

MON doing a fantastic job at Forest.  Brought a side languishing in 7th position flying up the table to 7th position. 


EDIT: Sorry I got another fact wrong.Embarrassed

They are in 8th position now with the teams above them having games in hand.  ProgressClap

Again who said he was doing a fantastic job Confused

Put your money where your mouth is so? Lets have a bet Big smile

They've 12 games left, what would you say would be a fair points return?

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No idea. They will finish somewhere around where they are now I'd say.   6-8th position.

The longer he is in the job the worse they will do.  Look at Sunderland.

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

No idea. They will finish somewhere around where they are now I'd say.   6-8th position.

The longer he is in the job the worse they will do.  Look at Sunderland.

6th would be an excellent season for them though, personally I don't think they will as other teams are stronger/better than Forest.

Realistically, it'll be next season before Forest look to make waves in that division and with the likes of Huddersfield/Fulham and one of Cardiff/Southampton (for argument sake) there certainly isn't that one massive side going to be relegated where you could assume they'll bounce straight back up.

Look we both know he's not going to be with Forest for the long haul, his style/tactics only have a certain limit before hitting a ceiling but I wouldn't write them off if they invest in the summer being there or thereabouts next season.
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

No idea. They will finish somewhere around where they are now I'd say.   6-8th position.

The longer he is in the job the worse they will do.  Look at Sunderland.

6th would be an excellent season for them though, personally I don't think they will as other teams are stronger/better than Forest.

Realistically, it'll be next season before Forest look to make waves in that division and with the likes of Huddersfield/Fulham and one of Cardiff/Southampton (for argument sake) there certainly isn't that one massive side going to be relegated where you could assume they'll bounce straight back up.

Look we both know he's not going to be with Forest for the long haul, his style/tactics only have a certain limit before hitting a ceiling but I wouldn't write them off if they invest in the summer being there or thereabouts next season.


Had MON got a proper assistant I would strongly fancy them for promotion.  Keane will fall out with the players after a few months and provides no tactical input.  I thought that was MON's biggest mistake.  Taking the same coaching staff on again.  Therefore I just see them doing a Sunderland.  Initial bounce from the new manager and fresh enthusiasm then a decline as the lack of tactics and good signings becomes apparent.  MON's history of transfers is poor.

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Thought forest were decent last night. Martin definitely worth a gamble for a short period.
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Originally posted by uibhfaillian uibhfaillian wrote:

Trap Junior unlikely to open his stupid trap tonight. 

Forest are now 3 points away from a play off spot.  But this 'Trap Junior' eejit on here, he knows better. LOL.


Hi U Wally.  No sign of you today.  Forest doing well.  Dropping steadily down the table under the expertise of Radioactive Man and Fallout Boy. Please come back on.

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by uibhfaillian uibhfaillian wrote:

Trap Junior unlikely to open his stupid trap tonight. 

Forest are now 3 points away from a play off spot.  But this 'Trap Junior' eejit on here, he knows better. LOL.


Hi U Wally.  No sign of you today.  Forest doing well.  Dropping steadily down the table under the expertise of Radioactive Man and Fallout Boy. Please come back on.
They are in the same league position now as when Karanka left.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by uibhfaillian uibhfaillian wrote:

Trap Junior unlikely to open his stupid trap tonight. 

Forest are now 3 points away from a play off spot.  But this 'Trap Junior' eejit on here, he knows better. LOL.


Hi U Wally.  No sign of you today.  Forest doing well.  Dropping steadily down the table under the expertise of Radioactive Man and Fallout Boy. Please come back on.
They are in the same league position now as when Karanka left.


Oh crontraire Rodney, oh crontraire.  Karanka left them in 7th.  They are now 9th.

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by uibhfaillian uibhfaillian wrote:

Trap Junior unlikely to open his stupid trap tonight. 

Forest are now 3 points away from a play off spot.  But this 'Trap Junior' eejit on here, he knows better. LOL.


Hi U Wally.  No sign of you today.  Forest doing well.  Dropping steadily down the table under the expertise of Radioactive Man and Fallout Boy. Please come back on.
They are in the same league position now as when Karanka left.


Oh crontraire Rodney, oh crontraire.  Karanka left them in 7th.  They are now 9th.
Apologies, I meant to say that when MON took them over they were ninth as they lost their one game under Simon Ireland.
Either way, it is disingenuous to say they are "dropping steadily down the table". You can argue that they aren't making progress, or that they should have kept Karanka, but that is a different matter.
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  No their performance stats are declining alarmingly.   Down 13 % in possession, so far they are making 100 less passes per game, down over 10 % in passing accuracy and some other areas.  Some achievement given that he's been there only 2 months now.  They put in a spirited performance against Derby but there wasn't much quality.  Same as his EIRE days.  The odd good result when the lads are psyched up to the eyeballs, then mostly dull, drab downright poor performances and awful football for the majority.  He is a one trick pony.  Motivation.  No tactics, no football.  When the lads aren't ultra hyped up he has nothing to fall back on. 

His game plans are crude and old hat.  Send the team out to rough up the opposition playing industrious direct football.   It's not 1995.  Rough up Johnny Foreigner and he will implode.

4 of the teams out of the 8 above them have a game in hand on Forest as well.

The Championship isn't the most sophisticated division but I still struggle to see them improving without a good number 2. Keane was a mistake.


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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

  No their performance stats are declining alarmingly.   Down 13 % in possession, so far they are making 100 less passes per game, down over 10 % in passing accuracy and some other areas.  Some achievement given that he's been there only 2 months now.  They put in a spirited performance against Derby but there wasn't much quality.  Same as his EIRE days.  The odd good result when the lads are psyched up to the eyeballs, then mostly dull, drab downright poor performances and awful football for the majority.  He is a one trick pony.  Motivation.  No tactics, no football.  When the lads aren't ultra hyped up he has nothing to fall back on. 

His game plans are crude and old hat.  Send the team out to rough up the opposition playing industrious direct football.   It's not 1995.  Rough up Johnny Foreigner and he will implode.

4 of the teams out of the 8 above them have a game in hand on Forest as well.

The Championship isn't the most sophisticated division but I still struggle to see them improving without a good number 2. Keane was a mistake.
All that may well be true, although it is subjective and implies a xenophobia I am unaware of, what isn't true, at least not yet, is that they are dropping down the table under him, although I am not sure the Forest owner will be happy at the lack of any movement in league placings at all.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

  No their performance stats are declining alarmingly.   Down 13 % in possession, so far they are making 100 less passes per game, down over 10 % in passing accuracy and some other areas.  Some achievement given that he's been there only 2 months now.  They put in a spirited performance against Derby but there wasn't much quality.  Same as his EIRE days.  The odd good result when the lads are psyched up to the eyeballs, then mostly dull, drab downright poor performances and awful football for the majority.  He is a one trick pony.  Motivation.  No tactics, no football.  When the lads aren't ultra hyped up he has nothing to fall back on. 

His game plans are crude and old hat.  Send the team out to rough up the opposition playing industrious direct football.   It's not 1995.  Rough up Johnny Foreigner and he will implode.

4 of the teams out of the 8 above them have a game in hand on Forest as well.

The Championship isn't the most sophisticated division but I still struggle to see them improving without a good number 2. Keane was a mistake.

You have said that you're not that interested in English football. And Like many people will watch some games of the Premier League and follow it. I doubt you have any interest in the Championship, so you are now delving into Forest's stats and games following O'Neill's results to prove what exactly? 

This is called obsessive behaviour (ok it's on the lower level of things) but it's worrying.

He's no longer the manager of Ireland. Move On 
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Some job he is doing. Playing 80's football at its finest.  Bobby Gould would puke at the football on show at the City Ground tonightLOL
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

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Some job he is doing. Playing 80's football at its finest.  Bobby Gould would puke at the football on show at the City Ground tonightLOL
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Why not judge him in April?
Well April  is here, and he has his team losing to relegation threatened Ipswich and Rotherham. As well as Villa and Stoke. The shine of their great  night against Derby has long since worn off, and as for the football itself, it's going down as you would expect. 

It's 20 years since they were relegated. Just as he only needed to finish third in the Euro qualifiers, and in France to be handed a new contract, he only needs to finish 6th to have a successful season. He is 5 points short with 7 games to go. 

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