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Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 9554 |
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I'm more worried about the almost 2 million underestimation of our population tbh, and tnis from a supposedly very intelligent man.
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We're decent enough..
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15256 |
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As well as out citizenship rules which also increases our available pool - ITV obviously chose him for the Demark game for comedy value So Martin after your 5-1 humping by Denmark what can you tell us about them ?
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
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TonyNotJack
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He probably knows quite well we have almost 5 million which as said you can probably put up to around 7 million when you consider the NI born and UK ancestry players available to us. He wants the viewers and everyone else to think isn't Martin doing miracles to even get little Ireland to a world cup play off. He doesn't even seem to be as good at the TV wisecracks as he used to be. His attitude is so like Trap it's scary and he'll most likely have the same last campaign.
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deise316
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I don't think either he or the FAI quite realise what damage he has done in relation to the fans attitude towards him after Denmark. Fair enough TOD might not be his cup of tea, but as the RTE fella with the mic, he is basically our only conduit to MON, besides those cringy, happy clappy stage managed FAI internal ''interviews'' that appear from time to time, and he badly misjudged the entire situation, one mainly of his own making with ridiculous substitutions at HT.
The football being so poor is one thing (a huge thing), but if he held his hands up & said he got it wrong, I think a fair few (I won't say most) would have been content to give him another chance. This defiance of ''I'd do exactly the same again'' bollix is exactly that, and everyone to a man, woman & dog can see through it. Talking to nearly any Ireland fans, especially the casual ones, ie the ones the FAI depend on to fill the stadium, it is almost complete negativity towards his attitude & his football. All this at a time where he will be trying to bed in new players who could do with some encouragement from the stands. Maybe we'll get a few of our customary draws in Sept/Oct/Nov, but I think it will turn ugly quick enough if we lose a few. Wonder how ST sales are going (I don't mean among the regulars on here and those not on here that make up the 10K or so who go to every game) they are doing a fair amount of promotion at the minute, which might suggest there hasn't been a massive demand as yet. |
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Bo Jackson
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Deise nails it again.
I haven't watched a single second of ITV's coverage but hear second hand some of his comments. I'd like to know, watching Denmark at any stage, did he wonder about how badly he f**ked it up last November. He hasn't got a leg to stand on making snide comments yet he retains this smug attitude when he does. The football does make a huge difference, but his attitude would go a long way in galvanising the support again. |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Yeah, very accurate assessment of the situation. I always think, and it took me personally a long time to learn this myself, that people forgive mistakes a lot easier when they are admitted. MON made a mess of it in the home game, we all make mistakes, but saying he would do the same again should be a sackable offence.
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coyne
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What really pissed me off about him on Sunday pre-match is he was encouraging Croatia and Denmark to go for it and play attacking football.
If only he could take his own advice
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pre Madonna
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It is probably easier to play attacking football with better players. I wouldn't hold that against him.
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horsebox
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Ah that auld chestnut. |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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By chestnut do you mean inarguable fact?
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horsebox
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It's not a fact.
It's your opinion based on you probably trying to deflect O'Neill's inability to organise a team (at least in the last 18 months or so). |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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It is fact. What player do we have comparable to Eriksen? Denmark have players at a different level to us. The ones that are at the same level are also often technically superior.
Why would I be deflecting from MON? I think he should have left after the playoffs.
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horsebox
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We would have a similar player in Coleman, obviously playing in a different position.
Just look at Sweden and their players - none of them are playing for top clubs - and have players very similar to ours, yet they playing for a spot in the quarter final. They are however well organised, have a game plan and probably playing at least on a par to their ability, not to mention wiping the floor with a technically strong side that is Mexico. |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Coleman is nowhere near Eriksen, let's be honest. Also, a full back can't influence the game in anything like the same way.Sweden are far, far technically superior to us. Their manager is overachieving with them though, no question of that.
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horsebox
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How are Sweden far far technically superior to us?
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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How the f**k aren't they!? And they are limited themselves! I hate to answer a question with a question, but we have a very, very technically limited team. Nobody signs our players for technical ability. The Swedes can all trap a ball though, just about!
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34860 |
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You've basically thrown a comment out that you can't backup with any sort of factual information.
Player for player they are not better or worse that Ireland. Both have 1 standout player playing for a top club - they however have a better manager and are playing above themselves. They could well end up beating the Swiss here - and they should be up too. Have a look at their starting 11 here - This is a very, very ordinary side here. Olsen - Copenhagen Lustin - Celtic Lindeloef - United Granqvist - Helsingborg Augustinsson- Bremen Claesson - Krasnodar Svensson - Seattle Ekdal -Hamburg Forsberg -Leipszig Berg - Al Ain Toivonen - Tolouse Ireland will never have technically superior players, all that we need is for a manager to put out a team with a plan and look to expose the opposition's weaknesses. Edited by horsebox - 03 Jul 2018 at 4:05pm |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Now that, that is an old chestnut. Judging a team based on who they play for is typical of the Irish EPL fan. It completely ignores everything, it is fantasy football stuff and is , for want of a better term, wanton stupidity.
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