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Mr. Snrub
Liam Brady Joined: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Co. Dublin Status: Offline Points: 2081 |
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Is Stephen Carr his agent?
Zefi needs a loan this year to see what he's made of |
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"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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Bukowski
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This is from google Kevin
Zefi was born on February 11, 2005 in Dublin, Ireland to Kastro Zefi
and Vera Zefi. They moved from Albania to Ireland before his birth. I don't know how reliable the site is, might be some sort of AI generated site going by this wording He has a great pace which has made him brought match winning performances for Ireland.
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"The third path to wisdom is experience, and is the most bitter."
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SeanC
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there seems to be a deluded notion that young Irish players going to the continent is better than them going to UK or staying at home. I’m yet to see any young Irish player get any sort of regular game time on the continent. Zefi falls into that category.
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Trap junior
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Marko from Tropoje is trying to take Kevin to Albania but Liam Neeson has vowed to take Kevin back from the Albanians to The EIRE
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Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more...
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Bukowski
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Josh Cullen was not too young, probably about 24, but his career got some trajectory when he moved to Belgium.
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"The third path to wisdom is experience, and is the most bitter."
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Am I just being overly negative, or is the correct way to read this that he is being let go by Inter?
Also, given the choice of: (i) playing first-team adult football for Rovers versus (ii) Academy football with and against players the majority of whom will never make a senior professional appearance at Serie A or B, I think Rovers was the better option. Only a tiny proportion, like less than 1%, of Inter Academy / Primavera players go on to play in Serie A, never mind for Inter proper. I remember looking at the numbers when Ryan Nolan was there (Bastoni one of the last if not the last to do it), which were similar in terms of breakthroughs to Bayern where Johansson was. Sound like great clubs because of the big name, but terrible record in bringing players through. At least at Newcastle he'll have a shot at PL2/U23 hopefully.
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exgrad
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Cullen had nearly one hundred english league appearances, L1 and Championship, befor he went over.
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exgrad
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That would be the suspicion all right, getting out ahead of the bad news. It was a real hail mary sending him to Inter, but maybe looked good for someone else.
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kevin100
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You are as unlikely to make it at Newcastle as you are at Inter Milan. Whatever one’s thoughts on Inters development of young players to try and paint Newcastle as any different or superior is bizarre. It was as sh*t even when they are a bottom 6 PL team don’t mind now. At least Inter are a top team in the CL regularly over the last 10 years. I agree on him probably being better off staying at Rovers he would have likely got regular first team football. He could take a leaf out of Will Gnontos book. Similar type of player too. Edited by kevin100 - 05 Jul 2023 at 10:40am |
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Banana_RepublicFC
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Ferizaj isn't getting many minutes at Rovers, so who's to say that Zefi would had he stayed. That 1% can't be true. Academy/Primavera graduates since 2010: Cristiano Biraghi (30) - Fiorentina Mame Thiam (30) - Kayserispor Alfred Duncan (30) - Fiorentina George Pușcaș (27) - Genoa Ionuț Radu (26) - Inter Milan Andreaw Gravillon (25) - Reims Federico Dimarco (25) - Inter Milan Michele Di Gregorio (25) - Monza Andrea Pinamonti (24) - Sassuolo Nicolò Zaniolo (24) - Galatasaray Zinho Vanheusden (23) -Inter Milan Salvatore Esposito (22) - Spezia Martín Satriano (22) - Inter Milan Eddie Salcedo (21) - Inter Milan Sebastiano Esposito (21) - Inter Milan Lorenzo Priola (21) - Salernitana Cesare Casadei (20) - Chelsea Franco Carboni (20) - Inter Milan Wilfred Gnonto (19) - Leeds United Valentín Carboni (18) - Inter Milan Bastoni was bought from Atalanta after a loan at Parma where he impressed. The reality of football at the very top is that it's difficult to churn out world class player regularly. United, Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid, etc. They all produce a lot of footballers for the overall football pyramid in their countries. The Football League is full of former United and Chelsea graduates. A Paul Scholes, John Terry, Lionel Messi or Raúl are not normal players. They come along every 20-30 years. If even. |
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kevin100
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Jake O’Brien at Molenbeek had a great loan spell last year. Garcia McNulty had a great loan spell at NAC Breda. Both lads enhanced their reputations massively. Ebosele gradually got gametime in a Serie A team. Abankwah made his Serie A debut. This is from literally a handful of players how many 8/9?? That’s before I get to your “deluded notion” comment. It’s 2023 not 1993. So many Irish fans/media outlets seem to talk about football as if it’s the latter and not the former.
Edited by kevin100 - 05 Jul 2023 at 10:45am |
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Banana_RepublicFC
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Newcastle should be ashamed that they're located within a hotbed for professional footballers, yet very few of them came through at Newcastle. Sir Bobby Charlton Jack Charlton Ray Kennedy Bryan Robson Peter Beardsley Steve Bruce Alan Shearer Michael Carrick All of them slipped through the net and came through at other clubs. Chris Waddle never played for their youth team, but was picked up at 19. Gazza is the rare exception who actually came through the ranks.
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84ccfc84
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100%. the youth football in italy is pretty poor level anyway. i think it was a give away when the lad wasnt being pushed into the 19s from the 18s this year that we wasnt going great. PL is still untouchable for developing players when comparing the 2 countries. different story if a lad is fastracked through age groups to get into b team/senior team.
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Maccatacca
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We should be trying to get more young lads into the Greek and Turkish Leagues, that's my main take away from the past few weeks.
They are the elite leagues of European football.
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Badgersboys9
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So many wild statements being thrown around regarding the best country for development. There are far too many situations depending on this, with the biggest being the actual club and ability of the player. Different clubs in different leagues have a completely different approach and record to development and pathway to senior football for young players. Just throwing out random countries is pointless.
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MC Hammered
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Realistically Newcastle are likely to take on a similar transfer trajectory to Man City where they will take multiple approaches. They will compete for World Class talent who will improve their starting XI and also separately for top rated youngsters who they will seek to loan out and make a profit on ultimately. Zefi has about a 200/1 chance of breaking into the first team and become a regular at Newcastle should he land there. But he could much more likely become a top pro elsewhere through a similar process to Bazunu, he could be farmed out to L1 or a similar level initially and then take it from there
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El Puto Amo
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kevin100
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Quickly crunched numbers on total U21 players to make 5 appearances or more in both Leagues even managed to filter it by position through Transfermarkt. Premier League Goalkeeper 1 Defenders 10 Midfielders 15 Attackers 15 Serie A Defenders 12 Midfielders 23 Attackers 15 Zero evidence to me that the “Premier League is untouchable” at developing players compared to others. It’s just fiction.If you want to use other metrics that’s fine feel free.
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kevin100
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I think going to Inter Milan or AC Milan is no different than going to a big 6 club or a Newcastle. Incredibly hard to breakthrough. One thing I will say the recent trend of certain English clubs breaking the mould in a money infested League by once again using intensive scouting,data analytics etc to source mainly young talent has been a monumental benefit to us as a nation. Obviously each club uses different methods but the same benefit. Brighton,Burnley,,Norwich and Southampton are 4 I can think of that have been very good to young Irish players and their development. Not to mention plenty EFL clubs too. Palace are another “Prem” club that seem to be handling a few young Irish lads developments to a tee.
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