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kearney304
Liam Brady Joined: 25 Feb 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1992 |
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Lads I read this with tears in eyes - absolutely great read, spoke from the heart and it was refreshing to see someone so honest.
Just puts things in to perspective for me a little. Lots on here questioning his commitment and loyalty to us but the fact is he is / was dealing with a personal tragedy and his head obviously wasn't right. Fair f**ks to him. |
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richie_os
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Apr 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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People also shouldn't be so quick to paint him as not being committed to us. It must be hard to leave his young daughter and wife behind to travel with Ireland after what they have been through. He is committed to them first and foremost above anything else and rightly so |
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(San Marino) I think i'd settle for the draw.
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16468 |
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Read it this morning. Got quite emotional I have to admit. As people say above the criticism he has gotten over last year or so, Something we all forget is that footballers are only human.
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ShamtheRam
Paul McGrath Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 18144 |
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Would bring a tear to glass eye that.
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FREEWHEELER
Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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It's absolutely ridiculous for anyone to question his commitment on anything. He didn't have his best game against Austria, who the fook did?
The article I read yesterday was absolutely heartbreaking, brave and honest and it took me back to when it happened to me. I love this lad, he's a class act.
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We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups.....
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notpropaganda73
Liam Brady Joined: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Donegal Status: Offline Points: 1051 |
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Have to say I welled up reading that from Harry, incredibly brave of him to share it with the world. I think it's important to remember as well how loyal he must feel to Bournemouth and their fans with everything he's been through and how the club and squad rallied around him and his family.
I've always liked him and thought he was absolutely fantastic in Vienna for us. A bit flat the other day against Austria but I wouldn't single him out for that, he wasn't the worst out there and the whole team took too long to get going. For me, he's a definite starter when available.
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Roberto Baggio
Robbie Keane UNBELIEVABLE JEFF Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 37332 |
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A good read. Pep and the Burnley fans
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Online Points: 10742 |
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Have to Echo everything above - A brutally honest piece, a compelling and heartbreaking read.
I think he's brave to share this but hopefully it might help others in this position. Have said this before, maybe something could be done from the YBIG community to make a donation to the charity he supports in his daughters name.
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FREEWHEELER
Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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I guarantee you it does help others. Men are hoors for not sharing something as heartbreaking as that and you have to make the first move as your family and friends, despite knowing you're hurting, often are afraid of raising it for fear of upsetting you. Once you open up, you can deal with it. You never forget it, but you learn to deal with it. Eats you up otherwise.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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So he is above criticism because he has openly talked about a personal tragedy? I don't think anyone, bar a few idiots on twitter, has brought this into it. I think we all wish him and his family well, that doesn't change the doubts some people may have about his commitment and it is a bit distasteful to use it in his defence. He is an Irish footballer, this is an Irish football forum. He will be discussed in regard to performance and commitment on his performance and commitment like every other player. That is a well written piece, fair play to him for being so open about it, it can't be easy.
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Shedite
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Great piece. Tough read
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Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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Did I say that? Absolutely not. From reading his previous interviews on missing Euro 2016, he was gutted about his injury. The lad plays with 100% heart every game, questioning his commitment to the Green jersey or any jersey is just ridiculous. There can be no doubts about his commitment in the matches he's played for us and his comments about what playing for Ireland has meant to him.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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How are ya FW? I didn't realise you were Kearney, and here was me thinking he was the Conna Maradona? I still think there are question marks over him as the questions that were asked have never been answered. I also didn't think that was a particularly committed performance on Sunday, although he wasn't alone there. I just don't feel international football is that high on his list of priorities, again, he won't be the first or last there. I do hope we can get the best out of him when he does, I do think he needs to hone in the rashness that can be seen as an asset in the English club game.
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Nib
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WOW. That article genuinely brought me to tears. I like Arter, that cheeky smile after he dived to win a free in Vienna endeared me to him forever. Remembering the Austrians were at it all game.
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kearney304
Liam Brady Joined: 25 Feb 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1992 |
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I reckon you would turn every comment in to an argument if you could. Yes this is my view. His commitment is in question by fans on this forum. But maybe this article will let people understand that some peoples decisions aren't based purely on what we think they are. So I don't find it distasteful. I'm sure that if he's fit, he will play. If not - instead of arsing about over here for a few days he is going to spend time with his family. I think people should lay off a small bit and this has everything to do with it.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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How is it an argument? This is a forum for discussion. That article told me nothing about his commitment to us at all, there is nothing to understand. My doubts stem from the recent call up for the Wales game when we found out he was unavailable via a social media message showing him on a plane to Dubai. This comes after previously pulling out of squads and subsequently playing in his club's next game. I think using his personal tragedy as a defence is little better than using it as a criticism and is distasteful as it is completely irrelevant.
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kearney304
Liam Brady Joined: 25 Feb 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1992 |
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That is my point exactly. I knew that was the incident you would mention. Maybe he needed just to "get away" and spend some time with his family after all his heartache. You're questioning his commitment - but what he is going through in his personal life has a direct impact on what he does in his professional footballing life, can you really not see that? That's my sole point.
Edited by kearney304 - 19 Jun 2017 at 10:03am |
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tetsujin1979
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the dubai trip was a warm weather training camp with his club.
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