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We've five fullbacks in the Premier League now, with a sixth PL player, Robbie Brady, also playing in that position at times. Interesting that O'Neill appears to favour Williams at leftback over, what on the face of it, seem obviously superior options in Cunningham, Doherty and Stevens, especially given the fact that he didn't have the best of seasons (on a  personal level) in League One.

I'm guessing that's due to the fact he can also play centre-half and he's not likely as the other options to roam forward, and in O'Neill's conservative mind, that makes him a better defender and a safer bet.


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I don't know where people keep getting the idea that Doherty is a left-back from! Sure, he is left footed and has played there, but his career has really taken off since he switched sides and always looked poor when I saw him on the left. Realistically, he should be back-up right back, MON doesn't seem to like him though and prefers Cyrus.
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He's right-footed, I believe. In any case, some fullbacks are adept on both sides - Denis Irwin being an obvious example. He played a full season as Wolves' first-choice leftback. Last season he played wingback, which is different position again, and I think he may have even played at centre-half when at Hibs (he's 6-foot-plus).

I accept he's better on the right, and that that is his preferred position, but my point is that he should be considered, as a PL player who's just come off the back of a very impressive season with Wolves, ahead of Williams who struggled in League One at Blackburn.


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He is a premier league right back, not a left back. He has proved he isn't adept at both sides, given how he has gone from an average left back to a pretty good right back!
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Between our options at centre half and full back we really won’t have to worry about our defensive options for a good while. 

Imagine if we had midfielders and strikers in such abundance. 
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Delighted for Cunningham, worked his way up the ladder from League one to the Premiership, great move for him. Hope he gets playing regulary and well too. I'm surprised Cunningham and Doherty havent been giving more of a look at over the past 2 or 3 years but I suppose they will be now they are in the Premiership. Great to see more Irish players moving to the Premiership, lets hope they are playing regulary this season.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I don't know where people keep getting the idea that Doherty is a left-back from! Sure, he is left footed and has played there, but his career has really taken off since he switched sides and always looked poor when I saw him on the left. Realistically, he should be back-up right back, MON doesn't seem to like him though and prefers Cyrus.

He's entirely right-footed, we've been through this before. 

On top of that, rather than doing poorly at left-back, it's actually the position that he truly "broke through" in a few years ago. He won numerous personal accolades for the half-season he played in that position, so he can almost certainly do a job there.
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Doherty wo  wolves player of the season at left full. hes a better right back though
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

I'm guessing that's due to the fact he can also play centre-half and he's not likely as the other options to roam forward, and in O'Neill's conservative mind, that makes him a better defender and a safer bet.

Possibly and also if we play 3 at the back he could be the left sided centre back and looking to see how he gets on at left full incase we've gotta change to a back four mid game. With 3 right backs possibly playing regular games at premier league level I wouldn't mind seeing Coleman play right sided centre back in a back 3 like Kyle Walker has with England, frees up room for someone like Doherty whose played that wing back position for Wolves.

Could end up with:

---------------Randolph 

--Coleman - Duffy - Long

Doherty - Rice - Hendrick - Brady
-----------------O'Dowda

----------Walters - Maguire


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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

I'm guessing that's due to the fact he can also play centre-half and he's not likely as the other options to roam forward, and in O'Neill's conservative mind, that makes him a better defender and a safer bet.

Possibly and also if we play 3 at the back he could be the left sided centre back and looking to see how he gets on at left full incase we've gotta change to a back four mid game. With 3 right backs possibly playing regular games at premier league level I wouldn't mind seeing Coleman play right sided centre back in a back 3 like Kyle Walker has with England, frees up room for someone like Doherty whose played that wing back position for Wolves.

Could end up with:

---------------Randolph 

--Coleman - Duffy - Long

Doherty - Rice - Hendrick - Brady
-----------------O'Dowda

----------Walters - Maguire
 
like that idea and 3 at the back for us generally. like that back 3 as well. more inclined to incl hourihane or arter though instead of odowda through the middle. another way to make it work could be rice in that back 3 and coleman as a wingback but agree would rather see him as a RCB, steady presence there. also, love walters, but hoping some of the newer faces like Hogan or soon callum robinson can stake their claims
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Originally posted by amccarten313 amccarten313 wrote:

 
like that idea and 3 at the back for us generally. like that back 3 as well. more inclined to incl hourihane or arter though instead of odowda through the middle. another way to make it work could be rice in that back 3 and coleman as a wingback but agree would rather see him as a RCB, steady presence there. also, love walters, but hoping some of the newer faces like Hogan or soon callum robinson can stake their claims

Think Ireland need that target man type player like Walters unless they change the way they play which I cant see happening, it's why I wanna see us play with two up top as I don't think any of the strikers coming through could play that lone role the way Ireland will use them. Also I more prefer O'Dowda that central role cause he gives us that extra spark, will run at defenders and shoot from distance. Don't think Hourihane or Arter would provide that and unfortunatly the one guy who would have been perfect defected to England.

Could try a 352 like

-----------------Randolph 

---Coleman - Duffy - Long 

Doherty - Rice - Hendrick - Brady 

-------Maguire  ------------ Robinson 

----------------------Hogan

Could play Maguire, Robinson and Hogan as an attacking 3. Also have O'Dowda that could play instead of either Maguire or Robinson and don't think he'll do much in England but if he does do well at Preston then Burke can play there too. 
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