EURO 2020 - The Final - Italy v England Prediction - You Boys in Green Forum

Kane mightn't have got many touches inside the box but he was superb outside of it. If they had a midfielder who could control the game, he wouldn't have needed to drop so deep and look the player best capable of instigating something.

Gary McKay wrote:

Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Kane mightn't have got many touches inside the box but he was superb outside of it.

Like saying your cock is great outside a vagina LOL

I can just imagine your team talks 😀😀😀

AKA pedantic kunt

Territorial wrote:

Baldrick wrote:

https://youtu.be/hqqPH6WOj1A

Gary Neville and others saying exactly what has been said by many on here (Terri apart) regarding England’s lack of a player or players to control a game.

There is more than one way to get a result in a football match.

For example, even with Jorginho and Veratti, Italy still only had 30% possession against Spain, yet still took it to penalties, just like England did to them.

Fact is, since GS took over, it is clear that his first priority has been to make them hard to beat, which they are. (People forget that Italy didn't quite manage it, btw). Which meant he has concentrated first on the spine of the team - Maguire/Stones, Rice/Phillips, Kane. This has got them further and made them more competitive than any England team since Venables was in charge.

Of course, being hard to beat is only half the battle, they need next to start winning games, which means becoming more attacking, esp from midfield. But I suspect he thought the likes of Foden, Mount and Bellingham etc were too young and inexperienced to take on that responsibility just yet.

Of course the likes of Neville and Shearer are pointing out England's deficiencies, but don't you think Southgate hasn't already figured them out for himself? The test will come over the next couple of years i.e. whether he sticks rigidly with the old plan, or adopts a more expansive game. I won't be at all surprised if it's the latter, in fact I'd be surprised if he isn't.

Which is why I reckon that anyone who doesn't want to see England do well should actually be concerned by what they've seen from them over the last 3 years, not reassured.

I am not diagraming with southgates tactics I have pointed out they don’t have the player to control a game or take the heat out of a game when you are up against the ropes and need to come back into. It’s precisely because there are many ways you need to win a game in a tournament that the lack of such a player will come back to haunt them at some stage. It’s a problem for English football as they have no produced a player like that who can do it at the highest level since Carrick and Scholes and neither played there enough in that role for England. Maybe others will become that player but at the moment I don’t see it. However there is a pattern of losing euro finalists doing well in tournaments over the next 2 to 12 years.

Euro 2016. France won the next world

Cup

Euro 2012 Italy win the euros in 2021

Euro 2008. Germany win 2014 World Cup

Euro 2004 Portugal win the 2016 Euros

Euro 2000. Italy win 2006 World Cup.

AKA pedantic kunt

https://www.sporf.com/petition-calling-for-england-italy-rematch-might-be-debated-in-uk-parliament/

Poll Question: Result
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Italy by 1	8	[22.22%]
Italy by more than 1	8	[22.22%]
Italy after ET	2	[5.56%]
Italy on Pens	7	[19.44%]
England by 1	4	[11.11%]
England by more than 1	4	[11.11%]
England after ET	2	[5.56%]
England on Pens	1	[2.78%]
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