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Originally posted by Steve Amsterdam Steve Amsterdam wrote:

Though I wasn't a fan at first of the 4 number 3's making it through setup, this has been great for the drama and suspense. UEFA did well.
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England are the only team to play their next game at home. They have never won a knockout game at the Euros, (bar 1 game on penalties) so if they can't beat a well organised if toothless Scotland, the optimism scale must be at 10 if they're happy to face Germany. Some have already written the Germans off. Not the wisest thing to do.


Really? Thats shocking. 
So 88 out in the group, 92 out in the group by Sweden?
96 they beat Holland in the knockout and Spain on pens

What happened in Euro 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012? I remember Portugal beating them once or twice in those tournaments. 

And in 2016 beaten by Iceland in the last 16



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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Really? Thats shocking. 
So 88 out in the group, 92 out in the group by Sweden?
96 they beat Holland in the knockout and Spain on pens

What happened in Euro 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012? I remember Portugal beating them once or twice in those tournaments. 

And in 2016 beaten by Iceland in the last 16

1984/2008: Failed to qualify.
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1996: Semi final after 2 wins and 3 draws in their 5 games. They beat Holland in the group stage.

Now they're "happy* to play Germany. Havertz and Hummels and Kroos and Goretzka, and Sane etc. But it's still a step up from a toothless Scotland and  Czech Republic. 
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Yes shocking record in the Euros.

Even in 68 as World Champions they lost to Yugoslavia.
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Yes shocking record in the Euros.

Even in 68 as World Champions they lost to Yugoslavia.

Basically if they didn’t win the World Cup on home solid over 70 years ago they would be the known as the massive underachievers. 

That’s one final in about 35 major competitions since 1950.

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Yes shocking record in the Euros.

Even in 68 as World Champions they lost to Yugoslavia.

Basically if they didn’t win the World Cup on home solid over 70 years ago they would be the known as the massive underachievers. 

That’s one final in about 35 major competitions since 1950.



Even making semi finals has been problematic Russia 18 euro 96 Portugal 2004 ? 


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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Yes shocking record in the Euros.

Even in 68 as World Champions they lost to Yugoslavia.

Basically if they didn’t win the World Cup on home solid over 70 years ago they would be the known as the massive underachievers. 

That’s one final in about 35 major competitions since 1950.


 
Ohh don't worry - they're still known to be very much that.
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Yes shocking record in the Euros.

Even in 68 as World Champions they lost to Yugoslavia.

Basically if they didn’t win the World Cup on home solid over 70 years ago they would be the known as the massive underachievers. 

That’s one final in about 35 major competitions since 1950.


 
Ohh don't worry - they're still known to be very much that.

Up until 25 years ago they were more successful than France and Spain etc

Thankfully they have now won multiple competitions and can place England in the one hit wonders alongside Greece, Denmark etc 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Up until 25 years ago they were more successful than France and Spain etc

Thankfully they have now won multiple competitions and can place England in the one hit wonders alongside Greece, Denmark etc 
 
This is true. I can remember Spain being considered serial chokers on the international stage well enough. Thankfully however 25 years is a long, long time. And 55 years is pretty much another world for most people. In terms of the last two decades it's hard to think of a team that comes close to England for underperformance given their resources.
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Argentina ?

Nearly 30 years since they last won the Copa.

Some great teams and players since.

Riquelme team in 2006 should have done better.
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Argentina ?

Nearly 30 years since they last won the Copa.

Some great teams and players since.

Riquelme team in 2006 should have done better.
 
Yeah they give them a run for their money alright. Getting to the WC final in 2014 still puts them ahead of England though who haven't got past a quarter final in the last three decades.
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Argentina ?

Nearly 30 years since they last won the Copa.

Some great teams and players since.

Riquelme team in 2006 should have done better.
 
Yeah they give them a run for their money alright. Getting to the WC final in 2014 still puts them ahead of England though who haven't got past a quarter final in the last three decades.

They have certainly underperformed in the Messi era

3 RU in the Copa America has to hurt. 

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

would have been good to see the Germans go out 

Are you a closet England fan RB?

Nope, Hungary going to Munich and winning would have been some story

I’d rather see Portugal or France play England than Germany
They’re not great 

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