General Election 2016

Devrozex wrote: They're all gangsters in fairness. The sooner we are rid of completely outdated relics of the civil war such as FF and FG the better. With a bit of luck they'll be forced into government together (their 'divide and conquer' approach has up to this point been extremely successful) and that could hopefully be the beginning of the end for both....although I accept that is highly wishful thinking. It just seems so mental that even today, after ALL the sh*t, you still bump into the odd headcase who supports the likes of FF as if they were their local football team!   We've very few political options in this country and that has always been the case since I've been around. At least there are clear differences between the likes of the Republicans/Democrats in the U.S and the Tories/Labour in the U.K. Our main two parties have always been two cheeks of the same pimply arse.

Edited by irishmufc - 07 Oct 2015 at 9:29pm

Gary McKay wrote: Guest wrote: Gary McKay wrote: So they were stupid enough to vote them in the first time were they, considering the state the previous gangsters left the country in.   Well done So you feel the decisions they made and not made so far are justified to vote them in again? Personally I feel they've done the best job possible given what they inherited. No-one else would have gotten us out of such a mess, especially the gangsters who got us into it. And certainly not SF who seem to think taxes grow on trees. Just my opinion.

FG will be leading the next government but I doubt very much that Labour will be joining them as they are likely to get wiped out.

Jerryfromkerry wrote: FG will be leading the next government but I doubt very much that Labour will be joining them as they are likely to get wiped out.   If SF get anywhere close to 20% to only stable government possible will be FG/FF. However FF will not have the balls and will support a FG minority government in return for a few of their policies in the programme for government.   Paddy Power normally come in handy for elections. Giving November election at odds on 1/6. The FG minority government I predict is 13/2.

irishmufc wrote: Devrozex wrote: They're all gangsters in fairness. The sooner we are rid of completely outdated relics of the civil war such as FF and FG the better. With a bit of luck they'll be forced into government together (their 'divide and conquer' approach has up to this point been extremely successful) and that could hopefully be the beginning of the end for both....although I accept that is highly wishful thinking. It just seems so mental that even today, after ALL the sh*t, you still bump into the odd headcase who supports the likes of FF as if they were their local football team!   We've very few political options in this country and that has always been the case since I've been around. At least there are clear differences between the likes of the Republicans/Democrats in the U.S and the Tories/Labour in the U.K. Our main two parties have always been two cheeks of the same pimply arse. Tbh Devrozex there isn't a huge difference between those two other than the democrats slightly being the lesser of two evils. Unfortunately they've adopted a more right wing approach in order to appeal to a Republican base who'll never vote them in anyway. It's nonsensical and inexcusable when they have one of the most articulate and intelligent presidents that have ever taken office and is probably a moderate at heart tbh. Their saving grace is that ideologically they're not for shrinking the state which the Republicans and Libertarians want. I was on the dole for 6 months and 4 months and certainly glad we had a welfare system that supported me in circumstances that were beyond my control. I'd have been in the gutter over there through no fault of my own if the Republicans and Libertarians had their way.

There is damn all difference in any of the parties. In any 'western' country. You only need to look at Greece for proof. Or closer to home, Labour. Nothing changes no matter who gets in. People think we have democracy, when in reality we have Capitalism. Totally disillusioned with politics and seriously considering if it is even worth while voting anymore.

Ps. I've voted in every single election and referendum since coming of age.

eire77 wrote: There is damn all difference in any of the parties. In any 'western' country. You only need to look at Greece for proof. Or closer to home, Labour. Nothing changes no matter who gets in. People think we have democracy, when in reality we have Capitalism. Totally disillusioned with politics and seriously considering if it is even worth while voting anymore. Ps. I've voted in every single election and referendum since coming of age.

So Lowry has said he'll "act in the best interests of the country" after the next election. I'm not sure who it speaks worse of: him for assuming he'll be re-elected, or the gobdaws down in Tipp who have no problem voting him on the basis that he'll look after the roads or whatever, and who cares if he has previously engaged in outrageously corrupt financial transactions for his own good, to the cost of every single person in the country?

http://www.rte.ie/news/election-2016/2016/0125/762795-government-independents/

This is a man, remember, who was found by the Moriarty Tribunal to be engaged in activities "profoundly corrupt to a degree that was nothing short of breathtaking".

And let's not forget 2013's Lowry tapes, where the man himself was revealed to have said the following, presumably referring to hundreds of thousands of euro in undeclared income:

"I'm asking you, Kevin, for f**k's sake will you protect me just a small bit. For jaysus sake don't land me in it. I'm destroyed as it f**king is. … I can't bring out that 200 – that 250 – again. If that comes out again I'm f**king ruined, I'm bankrupt. … They can't find that 200. I never declared it."

I despair.


Edited by SuperDave84 - 26 Jan 2016 at 1:55am

Stroke politics and the maverick.  We love it.  Healy Raes, Tony Gregory, Ming, Mick Wallace, Michael Lowry.  I'd give Lowry my vote any day before I'd vote for that detestable little kunt Boyd Barret


Edited by Just saying like - 26 Jan 2016 at 8:30am

Its actually a disgrace that Lowry can run for public office.