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TBWRA
Ray Houghton Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4266 |
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Agreed ,Shelly certainly not good enough IMO |
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The Boy Z
Jack Charlton Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8143 |
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nah,neither heary nor shelley are good enough for the squad.maybe heary when he was at shels but he is past his best now.
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Theres only one sport that matters..
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TBWRA
Ray Houghton Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4266 |
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If he was called in to the squad for an upcoming game he would not look out of place at all. I am not trying to undermine or talk down the achievement of any Irish Keeper this season Its not an us against them debate which you seem to think it is i just think he is good enough for the squad regardless of what league he is playing in .As for Heary probably a little harsh that he never got a cap over the years when you look at some of the jokers that have but if i was picking a squad tomorrow he would not be one that springs to mind for Right full Have you seen much of Westwood at Coventry ? Edited by ps bohs - 05 May 2009 at 8:53am |
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Barry
Robbie Keane Joined: 25 May 2008 Status: Offline Points: 20661 |
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i do him or brian shelley are better footballers than paul mcshane
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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ok whos place does he get, Given Kiely or Westwood?
Also Murphy just voted Keeper of the year in League 1 and Henderson getting back to fitness.
Do you think Heary should be RB too yeh?!
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OldBawnHoop
Liam Brady Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2105 |
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Reckon he is good enough, hate to say it about a Gypo but he is ... |
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TBWRA
Ray Houghton Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4266 |
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there is no argument here Brian Murphy is good enough to be in the squad .Do you watch regular football Donegal fan?
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donegalfan
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TBWRA
Ray Houghton Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4266 |
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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who did murphy play for in england lads?
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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Couldnt agree more.
I am not bashing the league, i just think it devalues the cap and would be embarrassing for a player to get a token call up just cos he plays over here.
Everyone hammered Stan for playing Lapira but want substandard players from LOI to get into the squad just because they play here.
Jason Byrnes one minute cap against Poland was embarrassing IMHO
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The Boy Z
Jack Charlton Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8143 |
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Personally id love to see a couple of the players in the squad but the only way of KNOWING if they are good enough is if they are performing well in the Championship at least.
I think Fahey will get capped but I think its important to realise that he will become a better player playing for Birmingham for 6 months than he would have playing in the LOI.
When players leave Ireland they generally go to a better standard of football,training,facilities,attitudes,theres more pressure to perform,bigger crowds.So they will undoubtably improve as players.A lot of peoples point when it comes to LOI players is that "how do they suddenly become good enough just by going to England".I think there would be almost immediate improvement when you go away.
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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hes not even saying they should be in the squad, he is saying if a few players were injured. The only one he thinks is up to it is Murphy. |
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The Boy Z
Jack Charlton Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8143 |
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If these players were playing in England do you think that people would be posting saying they should be in squads?or is it because they are playing in the LOI that LOI fans want them in the squad to give the league some sort of recognition? |
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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so there is one player in the league who you think is good enough for the squad then?
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mrtndvn
Ronnie Whelan Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
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Currently Brian Murphy is easily the best player in the league and without a doubt should be in the squad.
If there were then one or two injuries, I would say that Joe Gamble, Gary Deegan, Brian Shelley and Ger O'Brien would be the league's other players that could do a job. If the likes of Peter Thomson are good enough to sore against the likes of Georgia who our current panel had a lot of problems with, it suggests the gap isnt as big as you think. Edited by mrtndvn - 29 Apr 2009 at 4:52am |
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donegalfan
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Ok, if the argument is that the Irish LOI players are good enough for international caps, please list the players you would think are good enough.
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mrtndvn
Ronnie Whelan Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
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Do you watch any football at all because you havent a clue what your on about. Couple of points - The Ireland national team aint no great great shakes. Houlihan was named in the league one team of the year and has. He was signed for £250,000 which shows he doing something right and he has 32 league appearances this year alone. Considering his wage packet could be anywhere between £6,000 - $15000 a week, i would call that a bloody good success. Roy O'Donovan is currently on the books of a premiership team and is playing football for a championship team. George O'Callaghan moved from a league one side to a team fighting relegation in the LOI. The league table suggests he is playing for one of the worst teams in the league and you wont find to many people saying he should be in the ireland squad. When he last played with Cork he wasnt Corks best midfielder never mind leagues best player. Not sure why Tranmere thought he could do a job for them. Gary Dicker. Firstly, he played for one of the worst clubs in the league. Secondly, no one has ever said Gary was one of the leagues top players. Despite been at best an average LOI player, he managed to play a key part of the promotion drive for Stockport. Mooney was one of the top players in the LOI. When he moved to reading, he had 3 excellent forwards ahead of them in the pecking order, its no shame not to be able to get on ahead of Lita, Doyle Kitson and Doyle, all with plenty top flight experience. Mooney has since went on loan to Norwich where he has been banging the goals in. Mooney's best days are ahead of him, if you want to do a bit of research, you will find that despite an awful run of injuries, his goals per game ratio for Reading reserves has been superb. A first team call up awaits. Now feck away of will you. U say that you have gave praise to the guys that have made it. Exactly, they have made it and you cant discount them from your argument. You have also failed to bring up that the league has recently had players who had played or current play international football elsewhere. The likes of Mindaugas Kalonas, Ndo and Boco have had pretty decent international careers. |
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