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GAA is like the mafia. Once you go in you can never get out.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

GAA is like the mafia. Once you go in you can never get out.

A lad in my school, in a pure GAA area, a parish which didn't have or still doesn't to this day have a soccer club, who's father made the county panel in GAA Football & was head neck knees & ankles involved in the local club, chose soccer, and this was twenty years ago. He got UK trials, got a six month contract followed by a three year deal at an EPL club. Made first team, played 21s for Ireland and ended up having a very good lower league career. Is now a manager in English non league. 

Back then, that area had no soccer level of interest to UK scouting  ( and still doesn't  ) so he had to commute to Cherry Orchard several times a week, to train and it wasn't a short drive, it was several hours.

His father & family drove him. 

So I don't get it that soccer shouldn't offer those options in GAA heartlands. It won't be easy & there will be casualties, but dig in, offer the pathway, offer credible coaching  ( very important ) and compete. There aren't other easier options, if you want to reach out to potential talent outside the big population centers. 





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This is my experience in the Roscommon District league. At underage it's a summer league, begins in April finishes September/October. I've coached teams for 10 years. The fixtures are pretty much set in stone, I.e. U14s play Monday evenings, U12's Tuesdays and so on. Fixtures set months in advance. 

The league pauses in July/August and 7 a side competitions take over, this compensates for players going on holiday and the league resumes again after that.

Last year Roscommon GAA changed some of their underage fixtures so that they clashed with the soccer. The parents put serious pressure on the GAA and they relented and revised their fixtures to avoid clashing.

In my experience the kids prefer playing soccer but the GAA has a serious hold over the parents and they are nearly forced to play it. One of the issues is that of the local GAA clubs and their coaches. A local club schedules 2 training sessions & a gym session and a game a week for U12's, also warning the kids if they don't attend all then they won't play.

Summer soccer is way more pleasurable for everyone involved, the kids love consistent games, it's easier to train and keep their interest. Unfortunately if it becomes impossible to field soccer teams in GAA strongholds then so be it, but if agreement can be made on the scheduling of fixtures it can be done. Winter football is dead, pitches are unplayable for months at a time and we must do what's right for the game.
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A gym session (I know they won’t be deadlifting their bodyweight but still) for U-12’s at the expense of a session to develop technical skill is insane LOL
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

GAA is like the mafia. Once you go in you can never get out.


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I could see Sport Ireland having a role in this as an honest broker. Soccer has the biggest numbers of participants so it really should be in a stronger position. Sport Ireland could broker a deal with the GAA and County Boards to avoid fixture clashing.

For instance U14s could be given Monday evenings for soccer nationally and no GAA fixtures for that age group would be scheduled to clash. Training is a different issue and I think it would need to be worked out locally.

The kids should be at the centre of this and if they want to play different sports then governing bodies should be looking at how to facilitate it. Having had a few years of summer league I just can't see how anyone would prefer to be playing on grass(muck) in the winter.
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GAA has become the ultimate spoofers paradise. Gym sessions for 10 and 11 year olds. Give me strength 
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

GAA has become the ultimate spoofers paradise. Gym sessions for 10 and 11 year olds. Give me strength 

You’ll need it those kids would destroy you.
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The government's financial support of young sports is something I like. The best approach to make sure you raise a generation of intelligent and healthy people is to invest money in your youth. I wish this had existed when we were younger. 
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I appreciate the government's financial support of youth sports. Investing in your young is the best way to ensure that you create a generation of healthy, educated individuals.

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