I'm well aware thanks, as is everybody else cos you keep banging on about it........
We are speculating, his price has shortened, it's as good a reason to speculate as simply naming some foreign coach who is currently jobless.
Anyway you can get your tenner on at 7/1 if you fancy Carsley is the preferred candidate. Bruce 13/8, Lennon 5/1, 11/1 bar three.
THIS ALL MEANS NOTHING.
If he was the chose one his price would collapse and this market would be taken down right away.
This is literally nothing to indicate he is a valid candidate.
You can literally back whomsoever you like right now to win €500 on pp.com, you can have €308 on Bruce @ 13/8 - you can have €71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and you can have €100 on Lennon @ 5/1. And yes of course the price will then contract, thats how betting markets work.
Also it does mean something, it means that at this point in time, more money has been placed on PP on Bruce to be the next Irish manager than on anybody else!
Obviously the prices will be taken down as soon as it becomes apparent who the actual next manager will be.
This is a thread speculating on the next Ireland manager - I'm not sure what your issue is with making a passing reference to the betting markets.
I could change that betting market on my own. That's my issue.
I could make an outsider favourite - Would that then have any relevance? We know the answer to that.
Canham and Co are the King makers here - Deciding which type of manager they would go for and why is a far more relevant conversation.
Carsley "still the FAI's preferred choice" according to Cummiskey in the Irish Times, but then again, its Cummiskey.
It seems that Carsley's star is on the rise.
I imagine he may receive better job offers than our senior squad.
Strong likely hood alright, but from a pragmatic point of view, the Ireland gig might be a better stepping stone job. Obviously a similar workflow to his current gig. He would have a lot to gain from a successful stint with Ireland, relative to the expectation and pressure he would be under.
I think that's the one thing that maybe makes Carsley a possible candidate i.e. we know he can get more money elsewhere, but maybe the partish time nature of the job might appeal to him, given he hasnt worked in a full time position for a number of years.
What available manager is both stone useless and yet still an upgrade on Stephen Kenny.
Can't see it being Bruce though. Doesn't fit the profile of what they seem to be looking for, if the rumours that Carsley remains number one choice are true.
I'm well aware thanks, as is everybody else cos you keep banging on about it........
We are speculating, his price has shortened, it's as good a reason to speculate as simply naming some foreign coach who is currently jobless.
Anyway you can get your tenner on at 7/1 if you fancy Carsley is the preferred candidate. Bruce 13/8, Lennon 5/1, 11/1 bar three.
THIS ALL MEANS NOTHING.
If he was the chose one his price would collapse and this market would be taken down right away.
This is literally nothing to indicate he is a valid candidate.
You can literally back whomsoever you like right now to win €500 on pp.com, you can have €308 on Bruce @ 13/8 - you can have €71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and you can have €100 on Lennon @ 5/1. And yes of course the price will then contract, thats how betting markets work.
Also it does mean something, it means that at this point in time, more money has been placed on PP on Bruce to be the next Irish manager than on anybody else!
Obviously the prices will be taken down as soon as it becomes apparent who the actual next manager will be.
This is a thread speculating on the next Ireland manager - I'm not sure what your issue is with making a passing reference to the betting markets.
I could change that betting market on my own. That's my issue.
I could make an outsider favourite - Would that then have any relevance? We know the answer to that.
Canham and Co are the King makers here - Deciding which type of manager they would go for and why is a far more relevant conversation.
And clearly some people have thought about just that and they think that Canham and Co will make Bruce the King. They may well be entirely wrong, but that's what the people who are choosing to have a bet on the outcome are currently saying.
Carsley "still the FAI's preferred choice" according to Cummiskey in the Irish Times, but then again, its Cummiskey.
It seems that Carsley's star is on the rise.
I imagine he may receive better job offers than our senior squad.
Strong likely hood alright, but from a pragmatic point of view, the Ireland gig might be a better stepping stone job. Obviously a similar workflow to his current gig. He would have a lot to gain from a successful stint with Ireland, relative to the expectation and pressure he would be under.
I think that's the one thing that maybe makes Carsley a possible candidate i.e. we know he can get more money elsewhere, but maybe the partish time nature of the job might appeal to him, given he hasnt worked in a full time position for a number of years.
Pretty much. Doing a job on a similar workflow, but if successful, he would have ticked off "managed at a senior level" on his CV. Maybe even a decent showing at a tournament. For him, it would be a smart move.
Alternative is 6 months in charge of West Brom, things go t!ts up, he'll never be heard of again.
I'm well aware thanks, as is everybody else cos you keep banging on about it........
We are speculating, his price has shortened, it's as good a reason to speculate as simply naming some foreign coach who is currently jobless.
Anyway you can get your tenner on at 7/1 if you fancy Carsley is the preferred candidate. Bruce 13/8, Lennon 5/1, 11/1 bar three.
THIS ALL MEANS NOTHING.
If he was the chose one his price would collapse and this market would be taken down right away.
This is literally nothing to indicate he is a valid candidate.
You can literally back whomsoever you like right now to win €500 on pp.com, you can have €308 on Bruce @ 13/8 - you can have €71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and you can have €100 on Lennon @ 5/1. And yes of course the price will then contract, thats how betting markets work.
Also it does mean something, it means that at this point in time, more money has been placed on PP on Bruce to be the next Irish manager than on anybody else!
Obviously the prices will be taken down as soon as it becomes apparent who the actual next manager will be.
This is a thread speculating on the next Ireland manager - I'm not sure what your issue is with making a passing reference to the betting markets.
I could change that betting market on my own. That's my issue.
I could make an outsider favourite - Would that then have any relevance? We know the answer to that.
Canham and Co are the King makers here - Deciding which type of manager they would go for and why is a far more relevant conversation.
And clearly some people have thought about just that and they think that Canham and Co will make Bruce the King. They may well be entirely wrong, but that's what the people who are choosing to have a bet on the outcome are currently saying.
Yeah, I'm sure the tenner that went on Bruce was done after looking at what Canham would do alright.
I'm well aware thanks, as is everybody else cos you keep banging on about it........
We are speculating, his price has shortened, it's as good a reason to speculate as simply naming some foreign coach who is currently jobless.
Anyway you can get your tenner on at 7/1 if you fancy Carsley is the preferred candidate. Bruce 13/8, Lennon 5/1, 11/1 bar three.
THIS ALL MEANS NOTHING.
If he was the chose one his price would collapse and this market would be taken down right away.
This is literally nothing to indicate he is a valid candidate.
You can literally back whomsoever you like right now to win €500 on pp.com, you can have €308 on Bruce @ 13/8 - you can have €71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and you can have €100 on Lennon @ 5/1. And yes of course the price will then contract, thats how betting markets work.
Also it does mean something, it means that at this point in time, more money has been placed on PP on Bruce to be the next Irish manager than on anybody else!
Obviously the prices will be taken down as soon as it becomes apparent who the actual next manager will be.
This is a thread speculating on the next Ireland manager - I'm not sure what your issue is with making a passing reference to the betting markets.
I could change that betting market on my own. That's my issue.
I could make an outsider favourite - Would that then have any relevance? We know the answer to that.
Canham and Co are the King makers here - Deciding which type of manager they would go for and why is a far more relevant conversation.
And clearly some people have thought about just that and they think that Canham and Co will make Bruce the King. They may well be entirely wrong, but that's what the people who are choosing to have a bet on the outcome are currently saying.
Yeah, I'm sure the tenner that went on Bruce was done after looking at what Canham would do alright.
I'd imagine the market is just a little bit more liquid than that, but in any case, you seem to be intimating that people who have a bet just like to throw their money away!
I'm well aware thanks, as is everybody else cos you keep banging on about it........
We are speculating, his price has shortened, it's as good a reason to speculate as simply naming some foreign coach who is currently jobless.
Anyway you can get your tenner on at 7/1 if you fancy Carsley is the preferred candidate. Bruce 13/8, Lennon 5/1, 11/1 bar three.
THIS ALL MEANS NOTHING.
If he was the chose one his price would collapse and this market would be taken down right away.
This is literally nothing to indicate he is a valid candidate.
You can literally back whomsoever you like right now to win €500 on pp.com, you can have €308 on Bruce @ 13/8 - you can have €71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and you can have €100 on Lennon @ 5/1. And yes of course the price will then contract, thats how betting markets work.
Also it does mean something, it means that at this point in time, more money has been placed on PP on Bruce to be the next Irish manager than on anybody else!
Obviously the prices will be taken down as soon as it becomes apparent who the actual next manager will be.
This is a thread speculating on the next Ireland manager - I'm not sure what your issue is with making a passing reference to the betting markets.
I could change that betting market on my own. That's my issue.
I could make an outsider favourite - Would that then have any relevance? We know the answer to that.
Canham and Co are the King makers here - Deciding which type of manager they would go for and why is a far more relevant conversation.
And clearly some people have thought about just that and they think that Canham and Co will make Bruce the King. They may well be entirely wrong, but that's what the people who are choosing to have a bet on the outcome are currently saying.
Yeah, I'm sure the tenner that went on Bruce was done after looking at what Canham would do alright.
I'd imagine the market is just a little bit more liquid than that, but in any case, you seem to be intimating that people who have a bet just like to throw their money away!
I would sincerely doubt it - Single stakes bets on these markets are seriously restricted. I know this from past personal experience across multiple bookies.
I'm well aware thanks, as is everybody else cos you keep banging on about it........
We are speculating, his price has shortened, it's as good a reason to speculate as simply naming some foreign coach who is currently jobless.
Anyway you can get your tenner on at 7/1 if you fancy Carsley is the preferred candidate. Bruce 13/8, Lennon 5/1, 11/1 bar three.
THIS ALL MEANS NOTHING.
If he was the chose one his price would collapse and this market would be taken down right away.
This is literally nothing to indicate he is a valid candidate.
You can literally back whomsoever you like right now to win €500 on pp.com, you can have €308 on Bruce @ 13/8 - you can have €71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and you can have €100 on Lennon @ 5/1. And yes of course the price will then contract, thats how betting markets work.
Also it does mean something, it means that at this point in time, more money has been placed on PP on Bruce to be the next Irish manager than on anybody else!
Obviously the prices will be taken down as soon as it becomes apparent who the actual next manager will be.
This is a thread speculating on the next Ireland manager - I'm not sure what your issue is with making a passing reference to the betting markets.
I could change that betting market on my own. That's my issue.
I could make an outsider favourite - Would that then have any relevance? We know the answer to that.
Canham and Co are the King makers here - Deciding which type of manager they would go for and why is a far more relevant conversation.
And clearly some people have thought about just that and they think that Canham and Co will make Bruce the King. They may well be entirely wrong, but that's what the people who are choosing to have a bet on the outcome are currently saying.
Yeah, I'm sure the tenner that went on Bruce was done after looking at what Canham would do alright.
I'd imagine the market is just a little bit more liquid than that, but in any case, you seem to be intimating that people who have a bet just like to throw their money away!
I would sincerely doubt it - Single stakes bets on these markets are seriously restricted. I know this from past personal experience across multiple bookies.
And yes, people do like to throw money away.
I have already told you repeatedly what the single stake bets are restricted to (to win €500) i.e. you can currently have €300 on Bruce right now @ 13/8, 71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and €100 on Lennon @ 5/1.
I'm well aware thanks, as is everybody else cos you keep banging on about it........
We are speculating, his price has shortened, it's as good a reason to speculate as simply naming some foreign coach who is currently jobless.
Anyway you can get your tenner on at 7/1 if you fancy Carsley is the preferred candidate. Bruce 13/8, Lennon 5/1, 11/1 bar three.
THIS ALL MEANS NOTHING.
If he was the chose one his price would collapse and this market would be taken down right away.
This is literally nothing to indicate he is a valid candidate.
You can literally back whomsoever you like right now to win €500 on pp.com, you can have €308 on Bruce @ 13/8 - you can have €71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and you can have €100 on Lennon @ 5/1. And yes of course the price will then contract, thats how betting markets work.
Also it does mean something, it means that at this point in time, more money has been placed on PP on Bruce to be the next Irish manager than on anybody else!
Obviously the prices will be taken down as soon as it becomes apparent who the actual next manager will be.
This is a thread speculating on the next Ireland manager - I'm not sure what your issue is with making a passing reference to the betting markets.
I could change that betting market on my own. That's my issue.
I could make an outsider favourite - Would that then have any relevance? We know the answer to that.
Canham and Co are the King makers here - Deciding which type of manager they would go for and why is a far more relevant conversation.
And clearly some people have thought about just that and they think that Canham and Co will make Bruce the King. They may well be entirely wrong, but that's what the people who are choosing to have a bet on the outcome are currently saying.
Yeah, I'm sure the tenner that went on Bruce was done after looking at what Canham would do alright.
I'd imagine the market is just a little bit more liquid than that, but in any case, you seem to be intimating that people who have a bet just like to throw their money away!
I would sincerely doubt it - Single stakes bets on these markets are seriously restricted. I know this from past personal experience across multiple bookies.
And yes, people do like to throw money away.
I have already told you repeatedly what the single stake bets are restricted to (to win €500) i.e. you can currently have €300 on Bruce right now @ 13/8, 71 on Carsley @ 7/1 and €100 on Lennon @ 5/1.
I can tell you for a fact that I can't with either of the firms who have this market priced up (same company basically).
Singles Manager Specials - Football - Next Permanent Republic of Ireland Manager Steve Bruce13/813/8350.00Potential returns€918.75The maximum stake for this selection is €308.00
<-message ="sbk-betslip-bet__message" style="-sizing: border-; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba255, 255, 255, 0;">The maximum stake for this selection is €308.00
Singles Manager Specials - Football - Next Permanent Republic of Ireland Manager Steve Bruce13/813/8350.00Potential returns€918.75The maximum stake for this selection is €308.00
Most accounts will be different. I can only wager €254 on that, Borussia would be different again etc etc
I’d say we will most likely not appoint a new manager until after the euro 2024, so interim manager in any friendlies in between. I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone like Poyet approached after Greece are eliminated or another international manager/coach who is leaving another national team post.
t_rAndy wrote:
I’d imagine Carsley makes around 1m EUR a year with the U21’s? On par with what he could get off the FAI.
He has turned down more money before though according to his mate Kilbane
For March's games I could see an interim manager. No point rushing out and appointing someone ASAP. But they'd really want someone in place for June so whomever is the new manager gets a training camp in with the players before the NL.
Especially if we get handed a tough draw for the NL. Don't want the new manager walking into his first game being England or France.
He's on similar money as Kenny I'd assume. Southgate was on 500k when he left the U21s job. While that was a few years ago I couldn't see them paying more now.
Singles Manager Specials - Football - Next Permanent Republic of Ireland Manager Steve Bruce13/813/8350.00Potential returns€918.75The maximum stake for this selection is €308.00
Most accounts will be different. I can only wager €254 on that, Borussia would be different again etc etc
Weird, they shouldnt be, unless you are outside Ireland. Basically it allows you to have a bet limiting your potential winnings to €500. Im in Southern Ireland btw.
€254 is a weird amount as your potential winnings @ 13/8 are €412.
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