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Poll Question: Which category below will the new manager likely come from?
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Its absolutely not gonna be Duff. We all know that. 
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A ruthless bastard. Someone who won't be afraid to shake the apple cart

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What about Souness? He seems to have mellowed out. He’s been out management but he has a ton of experience as a dressing room leader, likes Ireland and knows about us from his time working here. Think he was interested in the past.

Could maybe team up someone younger as assistant e.g. Steven Reid.


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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

A ruthless bastard. Someone who won't be afraid to shake the apple cart

This for me. A nice guy never works for the Irish senior side. Although they hung on too long, look at the lads who actually had success with us - Jack, Mick, Trap & MON. All were fairly ruthless.


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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

What about Souness? He seems to have mellowed out. He’s been out management but he has a ton of experience as a dressing room leader, likes Ireland and knows about us from his time working here. Think he was interested in the past.

Could maybe team up someone younger as assistant e.g. Steven Reid.

FFS Souness. Why not get in Andy Gray as his assistant. How long has Souness been out of management?
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

What about Souness? He seems to have mellowed out. He’s been out management but he has a ton of experience as a dressing room leader, likes Ireland and knows about us from his time working here. Think he was interested in the past.

Could maybe team up someone younger as assistant e.g. Steven Reid.
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It’s left field but more so people talking about old managers like Raneri etc. if you are going in that direction then way not someone like Souness? I don’t think it would be the worst in the world. Though his Rangers background would be an issue for some.

Now I’m am not advocating him myself as a first choice or close to
It. I do feel the FAI are going to want someone who will work closely with the director of football and the underage system so most likely someone living in Ireland a lot of the time. Duffer probably would have fit the mould had he not had his falling out with them.




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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

A ruthless bastard. Someone who won't be afraid to shake the apple cart

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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Its absolutely not gonna be Duff. We all know that. 

Shouldn't and won't  be left near it for multiple reasons including couldn't be depended upon to jump ship in some sort of hissy fit the first time some bit of real pressure is on.
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Sean Dyche could be available soon but doubt he would be interested.

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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Surprised Brian Barry-Murphy hasn't been mentioned further 

Why. Hes managing u23s basically at the monent. We want him to come in and manage our international side on what basis?? 


Hasn't stopped Carsley being the leading favorite despite never managing a senior team!

Didn’t Carsley have brief but successful spell managing Brentford? Couldn’t commit long term due to family reasons but fans/ board wanted him to stay on. I have a feeling he’s not/ or at least wasn’t interested in full time club management.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Claudio Ranieri is managing in Serie A. Wake up people. 
Not just that, he's back at his first club

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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Claudio Ranieri is managing in Serie A. Wake up people. 
Not just that, he's back at his first club


Hence the, "we'd simply need to pry him away from Cagliari" caveat.
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Its gonna be Duffer

He won't take it. He hates the FAI and left Kenny's team etc.
I have a feeling we will end up disappointed.
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On the other hand, his teams are extremely hard to beat and they've drawn far more games than the other teams. His players clearly love playing for him, and he seems to know how to make his players ruthless b@stards (in the nicest sense of the word), something really lacking in our players. He also knows how to create a headline.

He made his feelings clear on the FAI. 

He will be in consideration for the job down the line, just not now. Would be shocked if the FAI looked to the LoI again straight away, given that the current one has failed. Bradley nowhere near getting the job either. He'd be Kenny 2.0 IMO as he's shown in Europe, he's unable to be more pragmatic or change system when needed.
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We need to look outside the Uk with the has beens and never were
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Can’t believe there isn’t an experienced guy out there who wouldn’t fancy it  

Few had heard of Wenger when he landed at arsenal - it’s a big football world out there 

That list from the bookies is a joke 
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https://twitter.com/TheIrishKieran/status/1701492165455565209

Some interesting points made in this thread. Do we trust the FAI to get this right?
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

The fai will have had a short list and might have even approached some managers during the summer if not earlier. As it was highly likely the group we were in that Kenny wouldn't be up doing much with it. 




Some people seem to have a huge amount of faith in the FAI - they must be leak proof if this is indeed the case and previous history would suggest that whatever they might be, they certainly arent leak proof.

I hope youre right though, I dont want to see this drag on interminably!
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