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Poll Question: Which category below will the new manager likely come from?
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Surprised Brian Barry-Murphy hasn't been mentioned further 

Why. Hes managing u23s basically at the monent. We want him to come in and manage our international side on what basis?? 


Hasn't stopped Carsley being the leading favorite despite never managing a senior team!
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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Surprised Brian Barry-Murphy hasn't been mentioned further 

Why. Hes managing u23s basically at the monent. We want him to come in and manage our international side on what basis?? 


Hasn't stopped Carsley being the leading favorite despite never managing a senior team!

Zero comparison between the 2
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Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

We are at the same stage now as we were when Trapattoni had to to pick up the pieces after the disastrous reign of Staunton. The next manager has to be a well respected experienced manager who has managed at a decent level. It sure as hell better not be a managerial novice or a mickey mouse manager who has managed at a poor level.

I would agree with that. Think it has to be an experienced head, tactically astute, but more progressive than Trap. Ideally bringing a decent coach in with him as well.

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It's either going to be a young inexperienced manager, or an older manager past his sell by date. We aren't getting anyone with recent EPL, or even Championship, experience. That is our situation, we'd do well to recognise it.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

It's either going to be a young inexperienced manager, or an older manager past his sell by date. We aren't getting anyone with recent EPL, or even Championship, experience. That is our situation, we'd do well to recognise it.


TBF, this is most national teams' situation these days. The international game is just not a very attractive proposition, and the up-and-coming managers have no interest in taking two to four years out of the club game for very little benefit to their career advancement, even if they do very well. I've heard people scoff at Roberto Martinez managing Belgium and Portugal but that's who wants to take on these jobs. And Martinez is at the top end of that.
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Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

How much are Iceland paying Age Haireide?


I can just imagine the Martin O'Neill articles if he was given the job LOL
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Originally posted by Seanachie Seanachie wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

It's either going to be a young inexperienced manager, or an older manager past his sell by date. We aren't getting anyone with recent EPL, or even Championship, experience. That is our situation, we'd do well to recognise it.


TBF, this is most national teams' situation these days. The international game is just not a very attractive proposition, and the up-and-coming managers have no interest in taking two to four years out of the club game for very little benefit to their career advancement, even if they do very well. I've heard people scoff at Roberto Martinez managing Belgium and Portugal but that's who wants to take on these jobs. And Martinez is at the top end of that.
Kenny is on more then the Swedish manager.The FAI should be looking at current and recent International managers.
Roberto Martinez started off on 1M with Belgium.
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The fai will have had a short list and might have even approached some managers during the summer if not earlier. As it was highly likely the group we were in that Kenny wouldn't be up doing much with it. 



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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

We are at the same stage now as we were when Trapattoni had to to pick up the pieces after the disastrous reign of Staunton. The next manager has to be a well respected experienced manager who has managed at a decent level. It sure as hell better not be a managerial novice or a mickey mouse manager who has managed at a poor level.

I would agree with that. Think it has to be an experienced head, tactically astute, but more progressive than Trap. Ideally bringing a decent coach in with him as well.

I'm of a similar mindset.  I've said before that I believe Claudio Raniere would be the ideal candidate.  His pragmatic utilization of a high energy, direct style allowed Leicester City to punch well above their weight, and would suit our current crop of players.  He was well liked and respected by his players, and possesses a charm and presence that would serve him well in the role. At his age, I'd have to believe that an international management role would potentially be ideal.  We simply need to pry him away from Cagliari.  
 


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Its the FAI where probably going to need up with neil lennon
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Originally posted by Shermanator1 Shermanator1 wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

We are at the same stage now as we were when Trapattoni had to to pick up the pieces after the disastrous reign of Staunton. The next manager has to be a well respected experienced manager who has managed at a decent level. It sure as hell better not be a managerial novice or a mickey mouse manager who has managed at a poor level.

I would agree with that. Think it has to be an experienced head, tactically astute, but more progressive than Trap. Ideally bringing a decent coach in with him as well.

I'm of a similar mindset.  I've said before that I believe Claudio Raniere would be the ideal candidate.  His pragmatic utilization of a high energy, direct style allowed Leicester City to punch well above their weight, and would suit our current crop of players.  He was well liked and respected by his players, and possesses a charm and presence that would serve him well in the role. At his age, I'd have to believe that an international management role would potentially be ideal.  We simply need to pry him away from Cagliari.  
 


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Claudio Ranieri is managing in Serie A. Wake up people. 
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Its gonna be Duffer

He won't take it. He hates the FAI and left Kenny's team etc.
I have a feeling we will end up disappointed.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Its gonna be Duffer

He seems a cranky and miserable sort. I don't think the Irish public would warm to him at all.
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

We are at the same stage now as we were when Trapattoni had to to pick up the pieces after the disastrous reign of Staunton. The next manager has to be a well respected experienced manager who has managed at a decent level. It sure as hell better not be a managerial novice or a mickey mouse manager who has managed at a poor level.

I would agree with that. Think it has to be an experienced head, tactically astute, but more progressive than Trap. Ideally bringing a decent coach in with him as well.


100%.
This is who I'd be looking at. An experienced, older manager who's happy with a part time job.
A Claudio Rainieri, Manuel Pellegrini, Roy Hodgson type. I know these are all employed. 

I think in international football a manager has fewer decisions to make, so their decisions have to be better. The team mostly picks itself. You've only a few games and training sessions. So these decisions have to be optimum.

I'd scrap 3-5-2 immediately also. There's a reason is always a niche tactic. Everyone plays variations of 4-3-3
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