Next Ireland Manager - Criteria

Edited by You Tell Me - 13 Dec 2022 at 7:52pm

I just can't see Carsley walking away from his current job to take the Ireland job. Probably earns similar if not more than Kenny, Birmingham is close to St George's Park, and has worked with players that would walk into our squad.

He's said before he's turned down senior roles causes he prefers working with the younger age groups and if the Ireland job was something that interested him it's a job that's gonna come up again down the line. Wouldn't have to walk away from the FA and could just wait till he's no longer wanted there. Which depending on next summers U21s euros could actually happen next year.

Bandwagon wrote: The clamour for Carsley on social media today and yesterday is boarder on embarrassing, hes an even bigger risk than Kennys appointment IMO. Hes done very little to date and anyone backing him is blindly backing him based purely on what they've heard of him rather than what they've seen of him.

Borussia wrote: Bandwagon wrote: The clamour for Carsley on social media today and yesterday is boarder on embarrassing, hes an even bigger risk than Kennys appointment IMO. Hes done very little to date and anyone backing him is blindly backing him based purely on what they've heard of him rather than what they've seen of him. He's exactly the profile of manager we should be looking for. This isn't a recently held view for me - We should have had him coaching in our system years ago.

We’re still stuck with the playing pool we have, which includes the group of ‘youngsters’ that appeared to be making strides, and have, for the most part regressed a little since 2021. Also, we have no real spine, and lack for a ‘leader.’ There is a distinct possibility that no manager would be able to do much with the tools at hand.

Borussia wrote: Bandwagon wrote: The clamour for Carsley on social media today and yesterday is boarder on embarrassing, hes an even bigger risk than Kennys appointment IMO. Hes done very little to date and anyone backing him is blindly backing him based purely on what they've heard of him rather than what they've seen of him. [/QUOTE] He's exactly the profile of manager we should be looking for. Quite right, Borussia. Carsley was extremely highly thought of at Brentford, who have an excellent record in appointing managers, and after a promising spell as Caretaker Manager, the permanent job was offered to him. However he declined only because he has a disabled son and he couldn't dedicate the time needed to do the job full-time, since it would take him away from his family in Birmingham for far too long. Which is why he opted instead for working for Birmingham City, and then with the England under-age set-up, (St.George's Park is much nearer his home than Brentford),. And he is sufficiently well thought of with England for the FA to promote him to the (crucial) U-21 job after a year. [QUOTE=Borussia]This isn't a recently held view for me - We should have had him coaching in our system years ago.

I doubt you'd have got him back then while his disabled son was still young. However the latter is an adult now, so Carsley may once more be on the market, possibly more so should Gareth Southgate quit the senior job. (We must assume Southgate also rates LC and gets on well with him).

Bad mistake if so. His coaching record is impressive and he has credibility as a player with 40 caps for Ireland, courtesy of a granny from West Cork, and extensive PL experience. One for the future maybe if he is still interested.