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craiglen
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Had it on a French stream and it was bloody loud.
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This will be the team. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Parrott start instead of Robinson.
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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What I find most interesting about the upcoming team selection is how few definite starters there seems to be. Bazunu (even that wouldnt necessarily be a given if Kelleher was fit), Collins, Egan, Cullen and Doherty are the only 5 I see as nailed on starter and I see some have even omitted Doherty from their line ups.
It's good to see that, from both a squad depth and a competition for places perspective, there are at least 12 players in the mix for the remaining 6 places in the starting XI - I think a reasonable case could be made for any of Coleman, Duffy, O'Shea, Mc Clean, Brady, Hendrick, Molumby, Knight, Ogbene, Obafemi, Parrott and Robinson to start. Some have even advocated for Hogan.
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craiglen
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 25 Mar 2013 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 386 |
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Given the midfield performance for the last break and how crucial they were to our good results, I'd have Knight and Molumby in there as nailed on if they're available.
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Bukowski
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Molumby for sure. Midfield will be a battle.
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kevin100
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Bazunu
Collins Egan O'Shea Doherty. McClean Molumby Cullen Knight Ogbene Parrott Is what I think he should go for. Ogbene over Obafemi as Scotland I presume will try and hunt for possession and play high up. Pace could be key in that situation which Ogbene has. A busy midfield is paramount too Molumby and Knight will keep it busy. Defence and keeper are solid as a rock. Doherty a must start if fit.
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John Nice
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I think that's true Scotland played a 4-2-3-1 last night, (possibly with us in mind), rather than the 5-2-2-1 they played against us previously , which is likely to give them an extra player in midfield. I think it will be difficult to outbattle them in there again and we are going to have to play some football rather than simply disrupt, which we did brilliantly in the reverse fixture. I still think Hendrick has a shot at selection - for me he is better on the ball than Molumby. Knight's season to date has also not been ideal, playing primarily as a RB in League One. Given previous form vs Scotland, ye are probably right - Cullen, Molumby, Knight all performed well that day, so it's the most likely selection, but I dont think either Molumby or Knight are nailed on, so to speak.
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Maccatacca
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Scottish Centre halves are painfully slow, there was 3 or 4 times in the first half where Murdyk got joy after a long ball over the top. Ogbene will get chances for sure.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9563 |
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Only changes I'd make to that would be Coleman for McClean and Obafemi for Parrott. Scotland's full backs are strong enough to exploit McClean so I'd much rather Doherty and Coleman playing. They're also very slow at centre back so I think having as much pace up top as possible with Ogbene and Parrot would be beneficial.
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Yeah, I like this and while Obafemi was the star man last time, Ogbene is a more physical presence and we can always spring Obafemi later on. Parrott puts in a shift and does a lot of dirty work for a forward, so I'd keep him in there on that basis. The midfield three should be nailed on. And LWB will be McClean even with Brady's massive upswing in form - McClean is a battler, and this will be a proper schmozzle. Finally Duffy - I'd not have him near the starting 11. Just look at the hilights from the last match and by jaysus, he nearly walked us off the plank more than once.
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John Nice
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Still think he'll go with Duffy vs a Scotland team that scored 2 from corners last night, and are also missing 2 or 3 defenders themselves. Can see Shane being important at both ends of the pitch and while his mistakes passing out were awful, he was good otherwise in the reverse fixture in both boxes. Surely we can find a way to play out that doesnt consistently involve him. Obafemi is every bit as pacey if not more so than Ogbene, but Ogbene's the man in form, so I'd agree with you there. I'm not sure re Parrott, who seems to be struggling for goals atm. Robinson is streaky but he had a good debut for Cardiff last week (2 assists) and he has that experience which might be important away in Glasgow. The rest is pretty much what I think Kenny will go with, I'd still like to hear peoples opinion on the possibility of playing O'Shea at LWB? I expect we will be on the back foot for portions of the game and Mc Clean (or Brady) isnt the greatest defender in the world. Agree that Doherty is an absolute must. Coleman RWB and Doherty LWB is another option that hasnt been discussed much.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9563 |
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Wouldn't start Duffy, but the chances he gave up have grown legs in terms of their supposed simplicity - they were both shots outside the box for McGinn, but they seem to get thrown around as if they were missed tap ins. Bear in mind he also did a hell of a lot right in that game, not least assisting Browne.
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BrendanD88
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No one is interested in talking about O’Shea playing LWB as he can’t play there and we have better options for that position in McClean, Brady, Doherty and O’Dowda.
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John Nice
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What annoyed me most is that we kept giving it to Shane as the first receiver. Surely we dont have to do that - can Nathan not be the first recipient of the ball? Shane offers a lot in both boxes and is a very good back to the wall defender. We are going away from home to a packed Hampden vs a Scotland side coming off the back of an impressive victory with revenge on their minds. We are going to be on the back foot for stretches, it will be scrappy, attritional and set pieces at both ends will be critical. Seems to me like a game that will suit Duffy. Shane to start and score!
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That's because they were pressing up on us but were intentionally leaving him free hoping we'd give it to him. It's a simple enough tactic. Push up on everyone else, so that the keeper gives the ball to Duffy, Duffy then is in trouble because all his passing options are marked, so he panics and kicks it away. Scotland straight in on goal. It's why he can't play against them this weekend if we've done our homework and learnt the lesson (big if).
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John Nice
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Why cant he play there? He has played there for WBA, even as recently as this season, scoring in that game if I recall, albeit from a corner. None of the players you listed are natural left wing backs, so I dont see why he cant be included in the conversation? He has often played as a full back for his club also. I would trust him defensively more than any of Mc Clean, Brady or O'Dowda especially vs a clever player like Stuart Armstrong in a game where we are likely to be on the back foot for long stretches.
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John Nice
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He was receiving the ball on the edge of his 6 yard box, Nathan can go back there and do that regardless of how Scotland press. It's the next pass that is critical, not the first one from the keeper. Shane lacks the composure to find that pass, always has done.
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West Brom have been playing with a back four all season and he's been ever present at CB bar one game I believe where he started RB and was back in at CB during the first half.
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