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 Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 9:17am |
 SeaSharp wrote:
Maccatacca wrote:
The Scots are the weirdest bunch ever.
Had a quick read of their forum this morning and they're accusing Ireland fans of singing IRA songs and think we made no chances and played long ball.
They are so deluded it's unbelievable. Hopefully the Ukranians batter them. |
The IRA songs aren’t an accusation, we did sing them. But it was very brief. |
That is disappointing if correct, what clowns we have as supporters.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 9:14am |
Maccatacca wrote:
The Scots are the weirdest bunch ever.
Had a quick read of their forum this morning and they're accusing Ireland fans of singing IRA songs and think we made no chances and played long ball.
They are so deluded it's unbelievable. Hopefully the Ukranians batter them. |
Do they think the Fields of Athenry is an IRA song?
In fairness, if they are looking at our forum they are probably reading plenty of deluded content.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 9:13am |
Just saw the goals on youtube. Was it O'Shea who gave the penalty away?
What the fook was he doing? On youtube it looks like he is running twards the ball with both arms in the air.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 9:12am |
Maccatacca wrote:
The Scots are the weirdest bunch ever.
Had a quick read of their forum this morning and they're accusing Ireland fans of singing IRA songs and think we made no chances and played long ball.
They are so deluded it's unbelievable. Hopefully the Ukranians batter them. |
The IRA songs aren’t an accusation, we did sing them. But it was very brief.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 9:03am |
Maccatacca wrote:
The Scots are the weirdest bunch ever.
Had a quick read of their forum this morning and they're accusing Ireland fans of singing IRA songs and think we made no chances and played long ball.
They are so deluded it's unbelievable. Hopefully the Ukranians batter them. |
Some fans broke out inCeltic Symphony and it was boo'd.
We crrated a few good chamces played nice stuff but definitely.mixed in some long balls/passes
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 8:53am |
The Scots are the weirdest bunch ever.
Had a quick read of their forum this morning and they're accusing Ireland fans of singing IRA songs and think we made no chances and played long ball.
They are so deluded it's unbelievable. Hopefully the Ukranians batter them.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 4:16am |
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And I'm not aspiring to be on Scotlands level ffs. They are sh*te. |
I am. Qualification for the Euros and a World Cup play off
Hello Roy. Take Triggs for a walk |
Something they've managed despite being completely sh*te.
Many on here would claim we were rubbish when we got a WC playoff a few years ago under MON, for example.
They manage to get results by being very similar to how we used to be between 2014-2018. A battling, hard working side that has become hard to beat. Yet the same fellas that deride what we were now hold Scotland up as some sort of aspirational target. Completely bizarre. |
Ah here. If you are trying to say that Scotland under Clarke are a version of Trapattoni or O'Neill then you weren't sitting in the stands watching us.
As the Scottish are nothing like that. Results wise yes, but performance wise that's a ridiculous statement. Martin O'Neill's tactics away to Denmark in a play off was to hoof the ball, and if they were further up the pitch hit it off a Danish player for a throw. It was Soccer Rugby.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:51am |
It'll be interesting to see how Parrott develops - someone asked the question a few pages back would he possibly become an attacking midfielder.
He reputedly has a great engine, but is not explosively fast, so I could see it.
Fingers crossed that Idah's knee heals fully, and Connolly continues with his new-found maturity, humility and born-again passion.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:21am |
John Nice wrote:
Greenie50 wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
They did get to a World Cup semi final And euros final in the last two major tournaments. On a bad run of form currently in division A. Generally the higher standard of team you are playing for is a reflection of your ability as a player. The more players playing at the highest level is a reflection of the individual abilities of the members of the team. The manager then turns them into a collective. It is a far harder to turn lesser players in a really good team than it is with players of greater ability. The biggest determining factor of whether a team will be successful at international level is the ability of the players. That is is 90% of the reason why teams win. There are exceptions like Greece and currently Hungary but players ability is the main driver for success. Scotland have better players than us. Simple as that which is why they are playing at a higher level. |
And part of that is that the bulk of their squad are in their prime physical years, 23-30.
The bulk of ours are either 30+, or U23s. We only have a small handful of lads in their mid-late 20's.
John Nice wrote:
SeanC wrote:
smallbone yes, Connolly no way - he’s not
going to get games in Italy from what we’ve seen so far, Idah
unfortunately is completely injury prone but would be a genuine option
otherwise, Festy defo an option like Hunt used to be off the bench
(speed scares teams). We do need more depth, will Ferguson come through
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Ferguson is 18, so i'm not going to be too harsh,
but he was pure sh*te last night despite the goal, he has a long way to
go yet despite the hype, time will tell. Connolly is a young lad who
earned a 25k a week contract and then lost his way. To dismiss him is
pure stupidity! He's a very good footballer if he gets his head right!
Idah will hopefully get fit again, super prospect, only 21. |
Ferguson is probably 4-5 years away from impacting the senior team IMO. He's got 1 goal & 1 assist in 9 games for the U21s. Parrott at the same age had 4 in 4, & we see how long it's taking him to adapt to senior football. Ferguson is being overhyped, and that's not a good thing (Connolly, Parrott, Obafemi & Idah all show why, for various reasons), let the lad go to League 1 to develop for a couple of seasons, away from the PL lights/scrutiny/pressure.
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I agree 100% with this. The hype around these young lads does them no favours and it's kind of sad when lads start getting on the likes of Connolly, Idah or Parrott's case just cause they're not the 2nd coming! They all want to wear the green and win games, it's not easy!
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We give out about the English overrating established premier league starter’s (which isn’t necessarily wrong in terms of winning an international tournament) yet we heap pressure on any underage player with a bit of potential. I remember lads criticising mourinho for not playing parrott more off the back of underage games. Now suddenly he’s no good because he hasn’t scored in a while. He may not be good enough but let him find his level without any pressure. He’s essentially a championship player with huge pressure on him
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:16am |
Greenie50 wrote:
E2016 wrote:
There are some utter whoppers on here to be posting
pathetic gifs and telling people to f*ck themselves because they've
mentioned one of the best Irish managers of the past 20 years
potentially managing the national side.
Some proper losers. |
"Proper loser" for posting a gif?
Suggesting
Hughton take over is either a joke or flat out trolling. His level in management over the
last 20 years is irrelevant. He's a dinosaur, the game has left him far
behind.
While you're at it why not argue for
Mick again, since he actually got us to a World Cup (in his 3rd time of
trying, with a fantastic squad at his
disposal)......... OH RIGHT because that was 20 f**king years ago and he's a dinosaur too!
John Nice wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Still feel we are a couple of players short though. Doesn't look like we will really have anyone else stepping into the team between now and the next campaign so this is kind of it . Obafemi maybe could get a bit better I hope |
Smallbone, Idah, Connolly, maybe Festy |
Yes we definitely will have more players coming in before the Euros quals start.
We have precious little in midfield for this type of game when Knight & Molumby tire. And no backup for Cullen (suspended for the Armenia game?). And what I'll call a "false-depth" at wingback.
Hopefully Idah can get/stay fit. Hopefully Connolly is righting his ship.
Smallbone wouldn't have suited the physicality of tonight's game (he's one for the 4th & 5th seed teams). Noss though has the combination of physicality/energy and technical ability for that type of game.
Coventry is the only real no.6 we have coming through that's close to ready (Hodge is a couple of years away at least), I would have him in as Cullens understudy.
I certainly would have preferred bringing Festy on instead of Coleman or Brady. Pace on the break in these types of games where we're getting swamped is such a massive attribute to have.
We're still very much in the middle of a rebuild (as much as some would like to deny it), so lets get on with it and get more players through.
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I don't really rate Coventry btw, but there's a paucity of options there, so maybe he gets promoted by default.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:13am |
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
ErsatzThistle wrote:
I thought YBIG played very well and certainly gave us a bloody awful scare !
Any other time the lad Parrot would have scored that chance.
Molumby is a player I would gladly have in our squad.
Please, please, please can you somehow prevent Gary Breen from commentating on games ? He did my feckin head all throughout the match
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I appreciate what you're saying but Parrott would miss that chance nine times out of ten. |
That's unfair, but I have to confess, I didn't fancy him at the time. That said, hopefully, he'll learn from it and bury the next one to get us to the Euros.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:10am |
Greenie50 wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
They did get to a World Cup semi final And euros final in the last two major tournaments. On a bad run of form currently in division A. Generally the higher standard of team you are playing for is a reflection of your ability as a player. The more players playing at the highest level is a reflection of the individual abilities of the members of the team. The manager then turns them into a collective. It is a far harder to turn lesser players in a really good team than it is with players of greater ability. The biggest determining factor of whether a team will be successful at international level is the ability of the players. That is is 90% of the reason why teams win. There are exceptions like Greece and currently Hungary but players ability is the main driver for success. Scotland have better players than us. Simple as that which is why they are playing at a higher level. |
And part of that is that the bulk of their squad are in their prime physical years, 23-30.
The bulk of ours are either 30+, or U23s. We only have a small handful of lads in their mid-late 20's.
John Nice wrote:
SeanC wrote:
smallbone yes, Connolly no way - he’s not
going to get games in Italy from what we’ve seen so far, Idah
unfortunately is completely injury prone but would be a genuine option
otherwise, Festy defo an option like Hunt used to be off the bench
(speed scares teams). We do need more depth, will Ferguson come through
and replace Idah? |
Ferguson is 18, so i'm not going to be too harsh,
but he was pure sh*te last night despite the goal, he has a long way to
go yet despite the hype, time will tell. Connolly is a young lad who
earned a 25k a week contract and then lost his way. To dismiss him is
pure stupidity! He's a very good footballer if he gets his head right!
Idah will hopefully get fit again, super prospect, only 21. |
Ferguson is probably 4-5 years away from impacting the senior team IMO. He's got 1 goal & 1 assist in 9 games for the U21s. Parrott at the same age had 4 in 4, & we see how long it's taking him to adapt to senior football. Ferguson is being overhyped, and that's not a good thing (Connolly, Parrott, Obafemi & Idah all show why, for various reasons), let the lad go to League 1 to develop for a couple of seasons, away from the PL lights/scrutiny/pressure.
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I agree 100% with this. The hype around these young lads does them no favours and it's kind of sad when lads start getting on the likes of Connolly, Idah or Parrott's case just cause they're not the 2nd coming! They all want to wear the green and win games, it's not easy!
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:08am |
ErsatzThistle wrote:
I thought YBIG played very well and certainly gave us a bloody awful scare !
Any other time the lad Parrot would have scored that chance.
Molumby is a player I would gladly have in our squad.
Please, please, please can you somehow prevent Gary Breen from commentating on games ? He did my feckin head all throughout the match
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I appreciate what you're saying but Parrott would miss that chance nine times out of ten.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:05am |
Greenie50 wrote:
E2016 wrote:
There are some utter whoppers on here to be posting
pathetic gifs and telling people to f*ck themselves because they've
mentioned one of the best Irish managers of the past 20 years
potentially managing the national side.
Some proper losers. |
"Proper loser" for posting a gif?
Suggesting
Hughton take over is either a joke or flat out trolling. His level in management over the
last 20 years is irrelevant. He's a dinosaur, the game has left him far
behind.
While you're at it why not argue for
Mick again, since he actually got us to a World Cup (in his 3rd time of
trying, with a fantastic squad at his
disposal)......... OH RIGHT because that was 20 f**king years ago and he's a dinosaur too!
John Nice wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Still feel we are a couple of players short though. Doesn't look like we will really have anyone else stepping into the team between now and the next campaign so this is kind of it . Obafemi maybe could get a bit better I hope |
Smallbone, Idah, Connolly, maybe Festy |
Yes we definitely will have more players coming in before the Euros quals start.
We have precious little in midfield for this type of game when Knight & Molumby tire. And no backup for Cullen (suspended for the Armenia game?). And what I'll call a "false-depth" at wingback.
Hopefully Idah can get/stay fit. Hopefully Connolly is righting his ship.
Smallbone wouldn't have suited the physicality of tonight's game (he's one for the 4th & 5th seed teams). Noss though has the combination of physicality/energy and technical ability for that type of game.
Coventry is the only real no.6 we have coming through that's close to ready (Hodge is a couple of years away at least), I would have him in as Cullens understudy.
I certainly would have preferred bringing Festy on instead of Coleman or Brady. Pace on the break in these types of games where we're getting swamped is such a massive attribute to have.
We're still very much in the middle of a rebuild (as much as some would like to deny it), so lets get on with it and get more players through.
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I think the physical side to Smallbone's game is under rated because he is a "creative" player, he's a big enough unit and he can put a foot in from what I've seen. Maybe he just needs a little more time to regain the confidence after the illness and the bad injury, but I think he could end up being a really good "8" rather than a "10". He's also quicker than he's given credit for. I'll be amazed if he isn't starting games for us in the Euro qualifiers, injury permitting. He's a proper footballer!
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 2:02am |
Baldrick wrote:
They did get to a World Cup semi final And euros final in the last two major tournaments. On a bad run of form currently in division A. Generally the higher standard of team you are playing for is a reflection of your ability as a player. The more players playing at the highest level is a reflection of the individual abilities of the members of the team. The manager then turns them into a collective. It is a far harder to turn lesser players in a really good team than it is with players of greater ability. The biggest determining factor of whether a team will be successful at international level is the ability of the players. That is is 90% of the reason why teams win. There are exceptions like Greece and currently Hungary but players ability is the main driver for success. Scotland have better players than us. Simple as that which is why they are playing at a higher level. |
And part of that is that the bulk of their squad are in their prime physical years, 23-30.
The bulk of ours are either 30+, or U23s. We only have a small handful of lads in their mid-late 20's.
John Nice wrote:
SeanC wrote:
smallbone yes, Connolly no way - he’s not
going to get games in Italy from what we’ve seen so far, Idah
unfortunately is completely injury prone but would be a genuine option
otherwise, Festy defo an option like Hunt used to be off the bench
(speed scares teams). We do need more depth, will Ferguson come through
and replace Idah? |
Ferguson is 18, so i'm not going to be too harsh,
but he was pure sh*te last night despite the goal, he has a long way to
go yet despite the hype, time will tell. Connolly is a young lad who
earned a 25k a week contract and then lost his way. To dismiss him is
pure stupidity! He's a very good footballer if he gets his head right!
Idah will hopefully get fit again, super prospect, only 21. |
Ferguson is probably 4-5 years away from impacting the senior team IMO. He's got 1 goal & 1 assist in 9 games for the U21s. Parrott at the same age had 4 in 4, & we see how long it's taking him to adapt to senior football. Ferguson is being overhyped, and that's not a good thing (Connolly, Parrott, Obafemi & Idah all show why, for various reasons), let the lad go to League 1 to develop for a couple of seasons, away from the PL lights/scrutiny/pressure.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 1:44am |
E2016 wrote:
There are some utter whoppers on here to be posting
pathetic gifs and telling people to f*ck themselves because they've
mentioned one of the best Irish managers of the past 20 years
potentially managing the national side.
Some proper losers. |
"Proper loser" for posting a gif?
Suggesting
Hughton take over is either a joke or flat out trolling. His level in management over the
last 20 years is irrelevant. He's a dinosaur, the game has left him far
behind.
While you're at it why not argue for
Mick again, since he actually got us to a World Cup (in his 3rd time of
trying, with a fantastic squad at his
disposal)......... OH RIGHT because that was 20 f**king years ago and he's a dinosaur too!
John Nice wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Still feel we are a couple of players short though. Doesn't look like we will really have anyone else stepping into the team between now and the next campaign so this is kind of it . Obafemi maybe could get a bit better I hope |
Smallbone, Idah, Connolly, maybe Festy |
Yes we definitely will have more players coming in before the Euros quals start.
We have precious little in midfield for this type of game when Knight & Molumby tire. And no backup for Cullen (suspended for the Armenia game?). And what I'll call a "false-depth" at wingback.
Hopefully Idah can get/stay fit. Hopefully Connolly is righting his ship.
Smallbone wouldn't have suited the physicality of tonight's game (he's one for the 4th & 5th seed teams). Noss though has the combination of physicality/energy and technical ability for that type of game.
Coventry is the only real no.6 we have coming through that's close to ready (Hodge is a couple of years away at least), I would have him in as Cullens understudy.
I certainly would have preferred bringing Festy on instead of Coleman or Brady. Pace on the break in these types of games where we're getting swamped is such a massive attribute to have.
We're still very much in the middle of a rebuild (as much as some would like to deny it), so lets get on with it and get more players through.
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 1:29am |
Baldrick wrote:
E2016 wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
Sadly there are posters on here who just want to go to a major finals and if that doesn’t or can’t happen forThem it’s the managers fault. Regardless of the talent pool at our disposals. We have posters on here saying Scotland are sh*te, yet they have players at Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal, Celtic and Aston Villa, not to mention One in Serie A and others at Newcastle and Southampton coming off the bench. We are a team of young championship players who may make the step up like Collins and Bazunu and then older players on the bench who are bench warmers at Premier league clubs. That’s why Kenny is working with and her is going for youth and youth let’s you down in the short term with poor decision making etc. ironically enough it was a 30 year old and a player in his late 20s who messes up defensively tonight. |
England have players from Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool and have been woeful the past year. Who cares?
Having players that play with certain clubs doesnt automatically mean you'll be a good team ffs. 
Theres not group of fans that obsesses about the amount of PL players a team has as much as the people on here. |
They did get to a World Cup semi final And euros final in the last two major tournaments. On a bad run of form currently in division A. Generally the higher standard of team you are playing for is a reflection of your ability as a player. The more players playing at the highest level is a reflection of the individual abilities of the members of the team. The manager then turns them into a collective. It is a far harder to turn lesser players in a really good team than it is with players of greater ability. The biggest determining factor of whether a team will be successful at international level is the ability of the players. That is is 90% of the reason why teams win. There are exceptions like Greece and currently Hungary but players ability is the main driver for success. Scotland have better players than us. Simple as that which is why they are playing at a higher level. |
Plus the biggest teams don't give 2 f**k about the Nation's League!
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Posted: 25 Sep 2022 at 1:26am |
SeanC wrote:
smallbone yes, Connolly no way - he’s not going to get games in Italy from what we’ve seen so far, Idah unfortunately is completely injury prone but would be a genuine option otherwise, Festy defo an option like Hunt used to be off the bench (speed scares teams). We do need more depth, will Ferguson come through and replace Idah? |
Ferguson is 18, so i'm not going to be too harsh, but he was pure sh*te last night despite the goal, he has a long way to go yet despite the hype, time will tell. Connolly is a young lad who earned a 25k a week contract and then lost his way. To dismiss him is pure stupidity! He's a very good footballer if he gets his head right! Idah will hopefully get fit again, super prospect, only 21.
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