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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Just to recap all this nonsense is over this: 

It followed a row over a request from a student to be addressed by a new name and for "they/them" pronouns to be used.

108 days in prison, a million news reports, loss of your job, reputation damage and the rest Confused 

If one of the students had to be called King Tutankhamun the Greatest he'd probably have had no issue with that. 

He doesn't have to use 'ye or they'. He could just called the student by his name like.
He doesn’t even have to do that. He has no interaction with the child 

What. So the child isint even in his class or that!!

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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Is there anyone on here from that neck of the woods who would care to give a local take on this all?



I doubt it even makes the news in Mayo with "Mayo 4 Sam" and the upcoming invasion of Roscommon to annex Ballaghaderreen taking up most column inches.


*Reclaim Ballaghaderreen, just to be clear!

Seriously though, has anyone seen John Rogers?

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Enoch and the family interrupted the disciplinary hearing by "repeatedly chanted that the chairperson of the board of management should be present at the meeting." LOL


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The school going after his assets instead of seeking his imprisonment Clap

School seeks order against assets of teacher Enoch Burke
https://jrnl.ie/5965190
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Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Just to recap all this nonsense is over this: 

It followed a row over a request from a student to be addressed by a new name and for "they/them" pronouns to be used.

108 days in prison, a million news reports, loss of your job, reputation damage and the rest Confused 

If one of the students had to be called King Tutankhamun the Greatest he'd probably have had no issue with that. 

He doesn't have to use 'ye or they'. He could just called the student by his name like.
He doesn’t even have to do that. He has no interaction with the child 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Just to recap all this nonsense is over this: 

It followed a row over a request from a student to be addressed by a new name and for "they/them" pronouns to be used.

108 days in prison, a million news reports, loss of your job, reputation damage and the rest Confused 

If one of the students had to be called King Tutankhamun the Greatest he'd probably have had no issue with that. 

He doesn't have to use 'ye or they'. He could just called the student by his name like.


Edited by Jackal - 09 Jan 2023 at 3:29pm
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Is there anyone on here from that neck of the woods who would care to give a local take on this all?



I was reading on the Facebook comments at the time from a lot of Mayo people who were clearly in the know and the general feeling was that they were hated. They were always filing complaints at ever opportunity no matter what they issue was, and they just appeared to be a right pain in the arse and the locals had enough.

The parents set up their own Christian school etc...you know the type.

 
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Aye, theres those types everywhere although not to the level of these goms.. I more meant from the area of the school though as opposed to His own neighbours in Mayo who are prepping for the upcoming invasion of the Rossies.
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Is there anyone on here from that neck of the woods who would care to give a local take on this all?



I was reading on the Facebook comments at the time from a lot of Mayo people who were clearly in the know and the general feeling was that they were hated. They were always filing complaints at ever opportunity no matter what they issue was, and they just appeared to be a right pain in the arse and the locals had enough.

The parents set up their own Christian school etc...you know the type.

 
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Is there anyone on here from that neck of the woods who would care to give a local take on this all?



I doubt it even makes the news in Mayo with "Mayo 4 Sam" and the upcoming invasion of Roscommon to annex Ballaghaderreen taking up most column inches.
 


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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Just to recap all this nonsense is over this: 

It followed a row over a request from a student to be addressed by a new name and for "they/them" pronouns to be used.

108 days in prison, a million news reports, loss of your job, reputation damage and the rest Confused 

If one of the students had to be called King Tutankhamun the Greatest he'd probably have had no issue with that. 


The thing is Burke doesn't even teach that particular kid or I believe have any interaction with them. 

Good summary of the family here  

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-40955927.html 




Edited by seanyshuffler - 06 Jan 2023 at 6:28pm
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Just to recap all this nonsense is over this: 

It followed a row over a request from a student to be addressed by a new name and for "they/them" pronouns to be used.

108 days in prison, a million news reports, loss of your job, reputation damage and the rest Confused 

If one of the students had to be called King Tutankhamun the Greatest he'd probably have had no issue with that. 

It would damage this forums' reputation
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Originally posted by bogball88 bogball88 wrote:

His dad drops him off and picks him up from school LOL

Christ almighty, can the kids not cycle to school like we did when we were younger? 
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Is there anyone on here from that neck of the woods who would care to give a local take on this all?


Very hard to get an opinion on this lad due to the families litigious nature! 
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Is there anyone on here from that neck of the woods who would care to give a local take on this all?


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His dad drops him off and picks him up from school LOL
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Why was he released if he didn't purge his contempt?

School was closed.  It was a leniency that he has thrown back in the face of society.  

Remember why he has the court order because he was shouting and roaring at the principal in public and would not desist from doing so and was suspended and not attend the school and he kept on attending despite being suspended.  Regardless of why he was roaring or anyone’s views on gender identity if any of us did that it work and regardless off the whys and whynots you would be suspended pending a disciplinary investigation.  

He didn't want to be released. The judges ruling forced him out of prison 


Mr Justice O'Moore said in his ruling, which was delivered electronically that "it was difficult to avoid the conclusion that Mr Burke was exploiting his imprisonment for his own ends."

This the judge said was a reason why Mr Burke had taken such "an unreal view of what orders from the High Court actually mean."

It would explain why he resisted an early trial which could have seen him free now, or on the cusp of freedom, the judge said.

It would also explain why after 100 days in prison Mr Burke had rejected a proposal made to him earlier this week by Mr Justice Conor Dignam that could have led to his immediate release, Mr Justice O'Moore said.

The purpose of jailing somebody for contempt is to coerce an individual to obey a court order. This while unattractive, is true, the judge said.

"This purpose was turned on its head when the person concerned is prepared to endure the undoubted discomforts of being imprisoned to obtain some greater benefit, as they see it." he said.

"The only plausible interpretation of Mr Burke's actions is that he sees some advantage in his continuing imprisonment, otherwise he would have either avoided his jailing or taken the opportunity to bring it to an end."

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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Why was he released if he didn't purge his contempt?

School was closed.  It was a leniency that he has thrown back in the face of society.  

Remember why he has the court order because he was shouting and roaring at the principal in public and would not desist from doing so and was suspended and not attend the school and he kept on attending despite being suspended.  Regardless of why he was roaring or anyone’s views on gender identity if any of us did that it work and regardless off the whys and whynots you would be suspended pending a disciplinary investigation.  
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