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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

This sh1te every year. Give ya the sh1tes
the only thing worse are our own idiots who get on the backs of the lads who choose to not take their poppy indoctrination 
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Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Noticed Pat Crerand wasn’t wearing one yesterday during the tribute to Bobby Charlton 
Read then that he never wears one on MUTV

It shouldn’t be a big deal, should be personal choice 

Nemaja Matic never wore one either! Didn’t ever get any abuse.

Any Irish person having a go at someone for choosing not wear a poppy needs their f**king head examined.
To be fair I think if you asked the average British person why Matic didn't want to wear a poppy, they wouldn't have a clue. 

Matic also took the approach of citing his recognition, respect, and sympathy for the poppy, while also saying 'not for me.' I also agree that the conflict in Kosovo is not properly remembered (or remembered at all) by a lot of people. Hence, it has gone under the radar in many ways. It can be forgotten that the conflicts in Bosnia and Kosovo were the 1990s version of what is happening in Ukraine today. As a result, Matic is unlikely to be probed further.

But as I've always said, the bulk of the people who will criticise McClean or Phillips will tend to complain about politics and football being intertwined (BLM, rainbow laces etc), the 'woke agenda', and complain that free speech no longer applies, and yet will make an exception for this particular issue, even though it has undoubtedly been hijacked for political ends.
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

In some sense, you can understand the ignorant pricks in England, but what excuse the ignorant pricks in Ireland? McClean has been called a filthy Irish **** in every ground he has played in. But apparently he brings it on himself. 

Says Old Man who calls 'fellow' Ireland fans that go to away matches, sex tourists and alcoholics.  
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Show me where I called anyone sex tourists or alcoholics? I think you might be displaying a few "Old Man" cognitive impairment symptoms.
 


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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

In some sense, you can understand the ignorant pricks in England, but what excuse the ignorant pricks in Ireland? McClean has been called a filthy Irish **** in every ground he has played in. But apparently he brings it on himself. 

Says Old Man who calls 'fellow' Ireland fans that go to away matches, sex tourists and alcoholics.  
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I took that comment as praise.
 




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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

In some sense, you can understand the ignorant pricks in England, but what excuse the ignorant pricks in Ireland? McClean has been called a filthy Irish **** in every ground he has played in. But apparently he brings it on himself. 

Says Old Man who calls 'fellow' Ireland fans that go to away matches, sex tourists and alcoholics.  
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Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Stand and listen observe the silence ffs it would of made zero diffence to his life. Now he will forever have fans on his back and will have to oyt up with needless sh*te. The reason every other Irish footballer does it apart from McLean.
He's not daft, he'll know what backlash is on the way. British soldiers fought and died for freedom in WW1 and WW2, should include the freedom to not partake in such activities as well

Always love this one....fighting for freedom while the colonial masters were literally incarcerating half the planet at the same timeLOL

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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

He's playing in England ffs. Least he can do is stand still to attention for 60 seconds. Pathetic imo. Plenty of Irish died in both World Wars also. 

The f*ck does him living in England have to do with it? He's legally entitled to live and work there, there's no concurrent duty on him to partake in their glorification of an organisation that carried out war crimes and atrocities on an industrial scale. Mad line of reasoning - do you have to kick a Uyghur if you visit China? Racially abuse a black person if you're in Nashville? It's all about respecting your hosts, right?

He works and pays his taxes in the UK he helps pay the wages and helps  fund the British army ffs, if he really gave a bollox he wouldn't have moved to England to work for a living.


Such a sh*te argument, if anything it should give him more of a say! LOL
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In some sense, you can understand the ignorant pricks in England, but what excuse the ignorant pricks in Ireland? McClean has been called a filthy Irish **** in every ground he has played in. But apparently he brings it on himself. 

Edited by TooOldForThis - 30 Oct 2023 at 10:54pm
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This sh1te every year. Give ya the sh1tes
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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

He's playing in England ffs. Least he can do is stand still to attention for 60 seconds. Pathetic imo. Plenty of Irish died in both World Wars also. 

The f*ck does him living in England have to do with it? He's legally entitled to live and work there, there's no concurrent duty on him to partake in their glorification of an organisation that carried out war crimes and atrocities on an industrial scale. Mad line of reasoning - do you have to kick a Uyghur if you visit China? Racially abuse a black person if you're in Nashville? It's all about respecting your hosts, right?

He works and pays his taxes in the UK he helps pay the wages and helps  fund the British army ffs, if he really gave a bollox he wouldn't have moved to England to work for a living.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JoxerDaly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2023 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

He's playing in England ffs. Least he can do is stand still to attention for 60 seconds. Pathetic imo. Plenty of Irish died in both World Wars also. 

The f*ck does him living in England have to do with it? He's legally entitled to live and work there, there's no concurrent duty on him to partake in their glorification of an organisation that carried out war crimes and atrocities on an industrial scale. Mad line of reasoning - do you have to kick a Uyghur if you visit China? Racially abuse a black person if you're in Nashville? It's all about respecting your hosts, right?

He works and pays his taxes in the UK he helps pay the wages and helps  fund the British army ffs, if he really gave a bollox he wouldn't have moved to England to work for a living.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irishmufc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2023 at 8:55pm
Didn't one of the twitter thickos call McClean a 'poppy dodger'?

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Edited by irishmufc - 30 Oct 2023 at 8:56pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SeaSharp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2023 at 8:52pm
Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Noticed Pat Crerand wasn’t wearing one yesterday during the tribute to Bobby Charlton 
Read then that he never wears one on MUTV

It shouldn’t be a big deal, should be personal choice 

Nemaja Matic never wore one either! Didn’t ever get any abuse.

Any Irish person having a go at someone for choosing not wear a poppy needs their f**king head examined.
To be fair I think if you asked the average British person why Matic didn't want to wear a poppy, they wouldn't have a clue. Unfortunately if an Irish person refuses they're automatically assumed to be an IRA supporter by the legions of thickos here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 9fingers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2023 at 8:50pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Listened to Phillips on a podcast recently and he came across as very articulate.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MC Hammered Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2023 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Listened to Phillips on a podcast recently and he came across as very articulate.



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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Listened to Phillips on a podcast recently and he came across as very articulate.



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Not sure the Hull and Wigan intelligentsia pay too much attention to Irish media, who cares what the Micks think! 

Edited by TooOldForThis - 30 Oct 2023 at 8:21pm
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These lads incur abuse because irish media/twitter pick up on it and call them legends and celebrate them for it. If nobody highlighted nobody would care but when it's being highlighted in the manner some people do so it antagonises people. 

It's his own personal choice, and I'm quite certain he didn't do it for people to celebrate him or call him a legend. He did it to satisfy his own personal beliefs and nothing more. 
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