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Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:


Does anyone have a link to national rankings, or likely national rankings, ahead of the draw on Sunday week?


It has been shared many times already Wink

I know some posts have physically typed out teams Pot 1 & Pot B in order, but I mean an actual link to a website. And I don't value Wikipedia as a valuable or accurate website as anyone can write anything on that. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:


Does anyone have a link to national rankings, or likely national rankings, ahead of the draw on Sunday week?


It has been shared many times already Wink

I know some posts have physically typed out teams Pot 1 & Pot B in order, but I mean an actual link to a website. And I don't value Wikipedia as a valuable or accurate website as anyone can write anything on that. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

no worries, I just looked on UEFA official site and there doesn't seem to be anything on there, Wikipedia appears to be the only source at the moment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%9323_UEFA_Nations_League#Overall_ranking

As previous mentioned
Pot 1 = 1-11 (-Germany)
Pot 2= 12-21
Pot 3 = 22-31 (Russia currently 32 suspended)
Pot 4= 33-42
Pot 5 = 43-52
Pot 6 =53-55


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Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.
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Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.

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Lose tonight and we rank 30th or 31st
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Lose tonight and we rank 30th or 31st

I'm not even contemplating that tbh. 
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.

Yes, but 26th wouldn't have got in had the last campaign been run the same way. 25th would have been the last spot to get a playoff. I'd say it's about 50/50 if we end up 26th. Whereas if Sweden win tonight and we're 25th things are much more in our favour.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.
since the play off spot is now secured we really need kenny not to backslide on the young players. would be apalled if we saw Hourihane or Hendricks starting tonight.
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Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.
since the play off spot is now secured we really need kenny not to backslide on the young players. would be apalled if we saw Hourihane or Hendricks starting tonight.
Prepare to be appalled. Someone has to replace Cullen. 
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Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.
since the play off spot is now secured we really need kenny not to backslide on the young players. would be apalled if we saw Hourihane or Hendricks starting tonight.

The playoff spot is not "secured".
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How can we get a play off spot, i thought it was only top 2 in the NL that got one?
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.
since the play off spot is now secured we really need kenny not to backslide on the young players. would be apalled if we saw Hourihane or Hendricks starting tonight.
Prepare to be appalled. Someone has to replace Cullen. 

It will be Hendrick, like it or not, Hendrick is 30, fit as a butchers dog, playing regularly again and doing well by all accounts (his team are a highly unexpected 3rd in the Championship right now after 10 games). He is well capable of continuing to play for the team throughout the next campaign and he will remain a valuable squad member as we remain short on options in midfield.

As for Hourihane, I'm no great fan and he is a full year older than Jeff, not as athletic imo and he has dropped down to L1 level, so he may not see out the next campaign. I would expect Smallbone to make the step up to the senior squad in November, possibly Coventry too, although I think his lack of game time will work against him and I'm not convinced he's ready yet in any case. There really arent many other midfield options out there right now who are playing regularly at Championship level or better and I think that's the minimum standard young lads like Kilkenny/Coventry will have to reach to be considered.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

How can we get a play off spot, i thought it was only top 2 in the NL that got one?


It’s based on the expectation that the teams ahead of us will qualify automatically and we will then replace them in the playoffs 
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.

Yes, but 26th wouldn't have got in had the last campaign been run the same way. 25th would have been the last spot to get a playoff. I'd say it's about 50/50 if we end up 26th. Whereas if Sweden win tonight and we're 25th things are much more in our favour.

Does Germany being automatically qualified as the host nation not impact on that though. I think it's unlikely that 26th wont be good enough. As you say though 25th and I think we would be pretty sure of a spot. Come on Sweden!
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No, that takes account of Germany dropping out. Without that 25th wouldn't even have got in.

Germany dropping out is balanced out by Estonia being parachuted in ahead of us from League D, which knocks us back to the same position.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.
since the play off spot is now secured we really need kenny not to backslide on the young players. would be apalled if we saw Hourihane or Hendricks starting tonight.
Prepare to be appalled. Someone has to replace Cullen. 

It will be Hendrick, like it or not, Hendrick is 30, fit as a butchers dog, playing regularly again and doing well by all accounts (his team are a highly unexpected 3rd in the Championship right now after 10 games). He is well capable of continuing to play for the team throughout the next campaign and he will remain a valuable squad member as we remain short on options in midfield.

As for Hourihane, I'm no great fan and he is a full year older than Jeff, not as athletic imo and he has dropped down to L1 level, so he may not see out the next campaign. I would expect Smallbone to make the step up to the senior squad in November, possibly Coventry too, although I think his lack of game time will work against him and I'm not convinced he's ready yet in any case. There really arent many other midfield options out there right now who are playing regularly at Championship level or better and I think that's the minimum standard young lads like Kilkenny/Coventry will have to reach to be considered.

Yes. Hopefully this. Smallbone has started regularly under both of Stoke's managers in the Championship and hopefully that continues over the next 6 weeks, he will be a shoe in for the next squad. He might bang in a goal or create a few too between then. 
I have my doubts about Coventry making the squad based on his game time so far for West Ham but hopefully that changes. He might get called up more based on his U-21 service tho.
I can't see Kilkenny getting back from injury, being fully fit and starting regular before the next squad announcement, I think it might just come a few weeks too soon for him.
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Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.

since the play off spot is now secured we really need kenny not to backslide on the young players. would be apalled if we saw Hourihane or Hendricks starting tonight.

Prepare to be appalled. Someone has to replace Cullen. 


It will be Hendrick, like it or not, Hendrick is 30, fit as a butchers dog, playing regularly again and doing well by all accounts (his team are a highly unexpected 3rd in the Championship right now after 10 games). He is well capable of continuing to play for the team throughout the next campaign and he will remain a valuable squad member as we remain short on options in midfield.

As for Hourihane, I'm no great fan and he is a full year older than Jeff, not as athletic imo and he has dropped down to L1 level, so he may not see out the next campaign. I would expect Smallbone to make the step up to the senior squad in November, possibly Coventry too, although I think his lack of game time will work against him and I'm not convinced he's ready yet in any case. There really arent many other midfield options out there right now who are playing regularly at Championship level or better and I think that's the minimum standard young lads like Kilkenny/Coventry will have to reach to be considered.


Yes. Hopefully this. Smallbone has started regularly under both of Stoke's managers in the Championship and hopefully that continues over the next 6 weeks, he will be a shoe in for the next squad. He might bang in a goal or create a few too between then. 
I have my doubts about Coventry making the squad based on his game time so far for West Ham but hopefully that changes. He might get called up more based on his U-21 service tho.
I can't see Kilkenny getting back from injury, being fully fit and starting regular before the next squad announcement, I think it might just come a few weeks too soon for him.



If Finn Azaz continues to impress for Plymouth could be a shock call up to the squad for Novembers camp to have a better look at him in training with the seniors.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Am I right in thinking we can finish no worse than 26th now? If so, it's odds on that we get a play off spot imo.

since the play off spot is now secured we really need kenny not to backslide on the young players. would be apalled if we saw Hourihane or Hendricks starting tonight.

Prepare to be appalled. Someone has to replace Cullen. 


It will be Hendrick, like it or not, Hendrick is 30, fit as a butchers dog, playing regularly again and doing well by all accounts (his team are a highly unexpected 3rd in the Championship right now after 10 games). He is well capable of continuing to play for the team throughout the next campaign and he will remain a valuable squad member as we remain short on options in midfield.

As for Hourihane, I'm no great fan and he is a full year older than Jeff, not as athletic imo and he has dropped down to L1 level, so he may not see out the next campaign. I would expect Smallbone to make the step up to the senior squad in November, possibly Coventry too, although I think his lack of game time will work against him and I'm not convinced he's ready yet in any case. There really arent many other midfield options out there right now who are playing regularly at Championship level or better and I think that's the minimum standard young lads like Kilkenny/Coventry will have to reach to be considered.


Yes. Hopefully this. Smallbone has started regularly under both of Stoke's managers in the Championship and hopefully that continues over the next 6 weeks, he will be a shoe in for the next squad. He might bang in a goal or create a few too between then. 
I have my doubts about Coventry making the squad based on his game time so far for West Ham but hopefully that changes. He might get called up more based on his U-21 service tho.
I can't see Kilkenny getting back from injury, being fully fit and starting regular before the next squad announcement, I think it might just come a few weeks too soon for him.



If Finn Azaz continues to impress for Plymouth could be a shock call up to the squad for Novembers camp to have a better look at him in training with the seniors.


Good shout, not beyond the bounds, playing regularly at Knight's level and probably has as many senior games, he may even be older than Jason? Twould be from left field but he is highly rated, has a decent CV and has taken well to League One level.
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