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Lads Christie shouldn't be near the squad imo. He was chronic the other night. Did nothing goin forward whatsoever. No need to be selecting him again. Stevens i think is in the same boat. Hes just do lethargic in possession and generally gives it away. He hasnt the pace to even think about beating a defender either. I still think McClean has some value to the squad so i would keep him around. 
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Just checked, Smallbone has 16 PL appearances over the years - and is in some form now.  

The cupboard is bare for us in creative midfield positions in this window - surely he should be with the seniors on merit now and actually get some game-time.  If not starting, to come on when the game opens up a bit.  

Can't be any worse creatively than what we've had so far in the last 20 min of games when we needed a goal (and probably be a big improvement).
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Lads Christie shouldn't be near the squad imo. He was chronic the other night. Did nothing goin forward whatsoever. No need to be selecting him again. Stevens i think is in the same boat. Hes just do lethargic in possession and generally gives it away. He hasnt the pace to even think about beating a defender either. I still think McClean has some value to the squad so i would keep him around. 

Stevens was awful. Christie was mediocre. Little threat going forward. But again, what world beaters do we have in reserve?
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My starting team would be

                        Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                  Browne  Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi

Hendrick Parrott Manning  Molumby Keane a mix to come on early if things go to pot.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

My starting team would be

                        Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                  Browne  Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi

Hendrick Parrott Manning  Molumby Keane a mix to come on early if things go to pot.
Browne shouldn't even be in the squad, the definition of sh*tE.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

My starting team would be

                        Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                  Browne  Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi

Hendrick Parrott Manning  Molumby Keane a mix to come on early if things go to pot.

It's a good lineup but we'd probably get booted out of the competition if we started twelve players.
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

My starting team would be

                        Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                  Browne  Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi

Hendrick Parrott Manning  Molumby Keane a mix to come on early if things go to pot.

It's a good lineup but we'd probably get booted out of the competition if we started twelve players.

Might be a better option
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Nothing against Smallbone but there's no point throwing him in to the lion's den with all this needless expectation of him and have him getting criticised too if he doesn't step up with a great performance straight away.

It's a young lad who's started sporadically for Southampton and struggled in his limited appearances this season. I don't think he's the answer right now on short notice.
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

My starting team would be

                        Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                  Browne  Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi

Hendrick Parrott Manning  Molumby Keane a mix to come on early if things go to pot.

It's a good lineup but we'd probably get booted out of the competition if we started twelve players.

Hahah im getting mixed up!! I miss counted. 
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                      Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                        Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi




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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

                      Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                        Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi





Two man midfleld when Scotland are gonna have Gilmour, McGregor, McGinn, and probably Christie in midfield.
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Yep, absolutely no way we can go with a two man midfield here, it's their strongest area. We'll struggle with three in there to be honest. Knight is going to be run ragged again trying to do too many jobs by himself in attack and also off the ball.
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Originally posted by GreenDodger93 GreenDodger93 wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

The thought of being beaten by Scotland...makes me want to puke!



Be thankful we didn’t get England, Holland or f**king Belgium; we’d be in danger of losing by 6 or 8 goals. 

What do you mean be thankful? It was impossible because that's not how the the NL works. LOL



Don’t be pedantic, you know what I was saying. *Had we been in a position to be playing teams of that calibre* we would be embarrassed. 
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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I'd like to see us revert to a back 4,



We don't have a squad suited to a back 4. We don't have fullbacks other than Coleman, everyone else is much better as a wingback (Manning, Stevens, McClean, Christie, Festy), we don't really have wingers other than Ogbene, Hamilton & Festy (2 of them untested at this level).

The entire system doesn't need to be changed around, just tweaked & much fresher legs added to the XI.

You could also argue that without Doherty, whose absence during this window has been under-emphasised in terms of how we attack through the middle of the pitch, we don't have the squad to play 3-5-2.

I don't see us getting a result against Scotland. I can't remember the last good performance we put in a "derby" game. Even the 1-0 win against Cardiff was a backs to the wall job. 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

                      Kelleher
Festy  Collins   Duffy   O'Shea    McClean

                        Cullen

        Ogbene   Knight    Robinson

                        Obafemi



Jesus Cullen would be fetching water from a Leaky boat there.  Far too much pressure out on Cullen and would be destroyed by Scotland's midfield.  I think he needs an extra midfielder in there with Knight and drop Robinson who looks unfit/wrecked. 
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Duffy, Collins, Cullen, Ogbene, Robinson, Hendrick all playing the 2 games so far. I wonder if playing three games like this in a week will become too much.



Collins and Ogbene the only two that didn’t look gassed after 60 mins in both games. Can see Duffy starting tomorrow but the others could be replaced 
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