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J89
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Similar to Cashin they probably waited until the last minute to do his paperwork. Strong chance he's not yet eligible to play in competitive games for us.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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This was the same attitude management had vis a vis a young Grealish who was smashing it in League 1 at 18 for Notts County (could easily have been picked for an easy match at home v Gibralter) and Declan Rice after 5 PL games for West Ham (could easily have been picked for a handy game v Moldova). Also, the list of uncapped PL players ahead of him in the queue is: zero. Norwich should be looking to be in the top-half of the Championship next year, and there aren't too many such uncapped players either. If you're good enough to play PL or top half of Championship, you're probably good enough for our squad, even taking age out of it. Would love to see maybe 2 or 3 of Springett, Smallbone, Adaramola and Festy (although don't want to be rewarding his recent attitude issues) in our senior squad for one or two of the upcoming NL games.
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Dalymount79
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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[/QUOTE]Ampadu is Welsh so nothing shocking in missing out on him.[/QUOTE] Ampadu was born and raised in England (Exeter) to an Irish professional footballer Dad (of Ghanian heritage) and a Welsh Mum. Not born in Wales and never lived in Wales afaik. So another talented English-born player capped by the Welsh in his early teenage years. Has proved a fantastic find for them. And a loss for us, given his Dad's record for us.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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That team would give our senior team a run for its money!
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Pauldaly1984
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did his dad not play a few under 21s
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Bandwagon
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Are you thinking of Anto Scully and his dad Tony?
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You Tell Me
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Ampadu currently plays for Venezia, who are stone last in Serie A and heading for relegation. Last season he played for Sheffield United who finished bottom of the Premier League. The season before that he hardly got a kick for RB Leipzig and he has played a total of 10 minutes of league football for his parent club, Chelsea. He's also a centre back - a position where we're absolutely stacked. I don't think we have missed out on too much here to be honest, but the fact he has 30+ caps for Wales tells it's own story. They don't have the player depth to pick from that we do, that's why they're able to take a chance on non-Welsh lads like Ampadu when they're 17. Most will go the way of Ben Woodburn and others, spiraling down the divisions, a few will develop into middling players like Ampadu and they're just hoping they'll pull the next Gareth Bale out of somewhere, but that seems unlikely. Once Bale moves on Wales will go back to being a slightly better version of Northern Ireland, generally not qualifying for tournaments and trying to cap any half decent teenager that qualifies for them to tie them down to the team.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Both Scully and Ethan Ampadu have fathers who played for Ireland U21. Kwame Ampadu played for Belvedere before going to Arsenal.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Ampadu's a quality player and proved it when they hammered us 4-0 in Dublin. Can play defensive-mid very well and arguably better than Cullen (though a different type of player). Certainly far further ahead in his career at his age than Cullen was at the same time. We could definitely have done with him. Spilt milk, though. Agree generally re what happens when Bale moves on, but it kind of goes for us as well - without a Roy Keane or a Duff-Robbie Keane combo, we're fairly ordinary. Us, Wales, NI, Scotland, just need one top-class player to build a team around - a Roy Keane, Gareth Bale, or dare I say it, Jack Grealish or Declan Rice. Ooops - more spilt milk!
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KingKenny
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Disagree on Ampadu as a DM. Has looked nothing more than average in Serie A this season. Does well out of possession but doesn't offer too much on it
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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And he didn't want to play for Ireland. He wanted to play for Wales. What are we supposed to do, capture him and force him to play for us under duress? |
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J89
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Plus Robbie Savage would have looked quality in that 4-1 game with how bad we were set up for it under MON and he was retired about 7yrs at that stage. |
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You Tell Me
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Ampadu has been given a good shot at the Premier League, the Bundesliga and Serie A now and has looked no more than mediocre in any of them.
Currently being linked to a string of Championship clubs next season which says a lot about his career trajectory. Could easily go the same way as Ben Woodburn has (or Aaron Connolly seems to be going, to use an Irish example). Has been given a lot of chances at a higher level and hasn't kicked on.
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Greenie50
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Apparently Cashins paperwork still isn't fully finished. I wouldn't be surprised if Springetts paperwork wasn't sorted, wasn't he previously only part of noncompetitive U18s?
Wouldn't say that at all. Festy was named in the last U21s squad until he had his little issue. I think that's been the best place for both of them for now. But yeah, I don't think Springett warrants it either.
Yeah kind of. I'd say Parrott in particular has held that "Development Player" spot since Kenny has come in. Coventry was called up in March 2021 to train with the squad. Lee O'Connor & Omobamidele were called up to train last summer (though more because of injuries). I think if anyone is to be called up next as a development case it should be Coventry (followed by Kilkenny once he gets playing regularly). Apparently the thinking around West Ham is Coventry has a higher ceiling than Cullen, which if true would be great for us and would certainly be worth investing time in given how light we are in that position.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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Surely it should be the other way around considering Coventry looked lost in the Championship for Peterborough whereas Kilkenny was able to step up pretty much straight away.
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You Tell Me
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Should probably factor in the teams they were playing for though. Kilkenny would probably have struggled at Peterborough, Coventry would probably have looked good at Bournemouth. They're different kinds of midfielder but I don't think there's much between them at this point. Both should have solid careers.
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