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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Howdo Howdo wrote:

Bit more here, wasn’t getting game time

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/vieira-confirms-coventry-loan-spell-for-adaramola-cut-short-early/
bottom of the table and adrift by a few points - skewed by their postponements I know - so not the end of the world to be away from that environment, especially if not getting games and you feel the manager doesn’t fancy you.

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Originally posted by Howdo Howdo wrote:

Bit more here, wasn’t getting game time

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/vieira-confirms-coventry-loan-spell-for-adaramola-cut-short-early/
bottom of the table and adrift by a few points - skewed by their postponements I know - so not the end of the world to be away from that environment, especially if not getting games and you feel the manager doesn’t fancy you.
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Any reason, official or otherwise, given as to why ? Looks very odd.
Palace left back Mitchell got injured the other night. If serious could be as cover.

Couldn’t be that serious he played today.
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Bit more here, wasn’t getting game time

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/vieira-confirms-coventry-loan-spell-for-adaramola-cut-short-early/
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Any reason, official or otherwise, given as to why ? Looks very odd.
Palace left back Mitchell got injured the other night. If serious could be as cover.

Couldn’t be that serious he played today.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Any reason, official or otherwise, given as to why ? Looks very odd.

Coventry had a good look at him and felt he wasn't ready for the Championship. Rather than try and force it to work like Millwall did with Parrott a few years ago, it was agreed with Palace that he'd go back.

Easy to say in hindsight but League 1 would have probably been a better destination for his first loan. Maybe he will go there in January.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Any reason, official or otherwise, given as to why ? Looks very odd.
Palace left back Mitchell got injured the other night. If serious could be as cover.
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Any reason, official or otherwise, given as to why ? Looks very odd.
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Officially confirmed now that he has left Coventry and is back at Palace.
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Hopefully it's a formation they play for the next campaign. The seniors use it and Tom Mohan has used it this year for the U19s bar one game when we were struggling for numbers in the last game of the elite round qualifiers. Stuck with the three at the back for Junes friendlies and would be weird if these two teams were to play a similar system and our U21s didn't.
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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Disappointing, is he injured? Very raw when I saw him play, but strong and quick - maybe it was a step up too far, hopefully he gets something sorted - Bagan getting very few minutes for Cardiff means the LB position in the U21s could be up for grabs.


I don't think so, seems he just isn't ready for it. Coventry have Jake Bidwell starting at that LWB spot (previously LWB ahead of Manning at Swansea), so Adaramola wouldn't have been starting much anyway.

It was a bad pick from Crystal Palace.

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Andy Lyons slot in there with the minimum of fuss.

Others are questioning Lyons ability to play as a full back as opposed to a wing back? I havent seen enough of him to have a firm view on this. Isnt he right footed also?


Yeah, Lyons is performing at a higher level as a wingback at Rovers than he was as a fullback at Bohs.

But I'd say the same about most of our lads being better as wingbacks, at senior & U-levels. Bagan & Adaramola are both good going forward but need to work on their defensive side.

And that all leads back to Crawford & him doing his own thing with the U21s rather than engaging with the joined up thinking that we're supposed to have now, & changing to the 3ATB that the seniors, U19s & U17s are using.

I agree that ideally a 3-5-2 at U21 level would be optimal, but tbf to Crawford, and I'm not his biggest fan, his options at CB were limited until Cashin came on board. He could probably do it now with Cashin, Mc Guinness, O'Brien fit again and Mc Entee all in the mix, but it's probably too late in the campaign to make the switch now. Next campaign we should definitely be looking to mirror the senior team.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Disappointing, is he injured? Very raw when I saw him play, but strong and quick - maybe it was a step up too far, hopefully he gets something sorted - Bagan getting very few minutes for Cardiff means the LB position in the U21s could be up for grabs.


I don't think so, seems he just isn't ready for it. Coventry have Jake Bidwell starting at that LWB spot (previously LWB ahead of Manning at Swansea), so Adaramola wouldn't have been starting much anyway.

It was a bad pick from Crystal Palace.

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Andy Lyons slot in there with the minimum of fuss.

Others are questioning Lyons ability to play as a full back as opposed to a wing back? I havent seen enough of him to have a firm view on this. Isnt he right footed also?


Yeah, Lyons is performing at a higher level as a wingback at Rovers than he was as a fullback at Bohs.

But I'd say the same about most of our lads being better as wingbacks, at senior & U-levels. Bagan & Adaramola are both good going forward but need to work on their defensive side.

And that all leads back to Crawford & him doing his own thing with the U21s rather than engaging with the joined up thinking that we're supposed to have now, & changing to the 3ATB that the seniors, U19s & U17s are using.

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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Loan apparently cancelled by Coventry.

They had Tayo playing with their U21s. Like I speculated before, he's not ready for this level yet. Should have gone straight to a L1 side, MK Dons were said to be interested at one point.

Wonder if they can sort a new move in before tomorrow night.


Doubt they would if it's true because he's only allowed play with two clubs in a season. They probably won't rush him out the door for the sake of him finding a new club. Would likely remain with their U21s and then see whose looking to strengthen in January.
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Disappointing, because I've liked what I've seen of Adaramola and although it was a high level for a first loan, I thought it might have worked. But to be fair, if they've had a good look at him and don't think he's ready, they're doing the right thing in sending him back.

If he's not going to be playing he's as well to not be playing at his parent club, and it might yet be possible to get him a loan at a more appropriate level before the window closes - probably League 1, which is maybe the highest level any young player should go for a first loan unless they're absolutely exceptional.
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Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Loan apparently cancelled by Coventry.

They had Tayo playing with their U21s. Like I speculated before, he's not ready for this level yet. Should have gone straight to a L1 side, MK Dons were said to be interested at one point.

Wonder if they can sort a new move in before tomorrow night.

Disappointing, is he injured? Very raw when I saw him play, but strong and quick - maybe it was a step up too far, hopefully he gets something sorted - Bagan getting very few minutes for Cardiff means the LB position in the U21s could be up for grabs.

Andy Lyons slot in there with the minimum of fuss.

Others are questioning Lyons ability to play as a full back as opposed to a wing back? I havent seen enough of him to have a firm view on this. Isnt he right footed also?
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Loan apparently cancelled by Coventry.

They had Tayo playing with their U21s. Like I speculated before, he's not ready for this level yet. Should have gone straight to a L1 side, MK Dons were said to be interested at one point.

Wonder if they can sort a new move in before tomorrow night.

Disappointing, is he injured? Very raw when I saw him play, but strong and quick - maybe it was a step up too far, hopefully he gets something sorted - Bagan getting very few minutes for Cardiff means the LB position in the U21s could be up for grabs.

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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Loan apparently cancelled by Coventry.

They had Tayo playing with their U21s. Like I speculated before, he's not ready for this level yet. Should have gone straight to a L1 side, MK Dons were said to be interested at one point.

Wonder if they can sort a new move in before tomorrow night.

Disappointing, is he injured? Very raw when I saw him play, but strong and quick - maybe it was a step up too far, hopefully he gets something sorted - Bagan getting very few minutes for Cardiff means the LB position in the U21s could be up for grabs.
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Loan apparently cancelled by Coventry.

They had Tayo playing with their U21s. Like I speculated before, he's not ready for this level yet. Should have gone straight to a L1 side, MK Dons were said to be interested at one point.

Wonder if they can sort a new move in before tomorrow night.
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