Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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OohAah... wrote: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html Started a decade ago

eireland wrote: OohAah... wrote: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html Started a decade ago So a decade ago after Russia acted aggressively towards Ukraine the CIA helps Ukraine defend itself? Fair play to them.  What's next China is justified in invading every south China sea neighbour because they're aligning themselves with the US? Historical brotherly nation of china , Vietnam must be invaded and demilitarised as they draw closer ties with the US?  This invasion of Ukraine is indefensible.

eireland wrote: OohAah... wrote: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html Started a decade ago So a decade ago after Russia acted aggressively towards Ukraine the CIA helps Ukraine defend itself? Fair play to them.  What's next China is justified in invading every south China sea neighbour because they're aligning themselves with the US? Historical brotherly nation of china , Vietnam must be invaded and demilitarised as they draw closer ties with the US?  This invasion of Ukraine is indefensible.

That doesn’t mean they were involved in the Euromaidan. It doesn’t mean they were involved in the ending of the Yanukovych regime, and it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t mean that it had anything to do with the ongoing invasion. All you can say is that Ukraine has collaborated with the CIA, for intelligence purposes after Russia invaded Crimea. Like I said, seeking outside assistance for intelligence purposes is not unusual, nefarious, nor unprecedented.

Edited by Het-field - 04 Apr 2024 at 1:02pm

Russia’s own belligerence backfiring terribly on them here.

OohAah... wrote: Het-field wrote: That doesn’t mean they were involved in the Euromaidan. It doesn’t mean they were involved in the ending of the Yanukovych regime, and it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t mean that it had anything to do with the ongoing invasion. All you can say is that Ukraine has collaborated with the CIA, for intelligence purposes after Russia invaded Crimea. Like I said, seeking outside assistance for intelligence purposes is not unusual, nefarious, nor unprecedented. And this is the key part, the MSM are not unearthing some scandal. But if some people want to believe this is all part of a wider tissue of related activity, there is little that can be done. It doesnt mean anything no, but it does show american fingerprints in Ukraine pre invasion. Logically speaking this has happened. CIA in Ukraine for 10 years did not stop the invasion. It begs the question to me anyway if they werent there would the invasion have happened? We will never know. did they infact exacerbate the threat.

OohAah... wrote: Het-field wrote: That doesn’t mean they were involved in the Euromaidan. It doesn’t mean they were involved in the ending of the Yanukovych regime, and it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t mean that it had anything to do with the ongoing invasion. All you can say is that Ukraine has collaborated with the CIA, for intelligence purposes after Russia invaded Crimea. Like I said, seeking outside assistance for intelligence purposes is not unusual, nefarious, nor unprecedented. And this is the key part, the MSM are not unearthing some scandal. But if some people want to believe this is all part of a wider tissue of related activity, there is little that can be done. It doesnt mean anything no, but it does show american fingerprints in Ukraine pre invasion. Logically speaking this has happened. CIA in Ukraine for 10 years did not stop the invasion. It begs the question to me anyway if they werent there would the invasion have happened? We will never know. did they infact exacerbate the threat.

[QUOTE=OohAah...]again We are stuck in a double think here lads. Either The CIA were there to help Ukraine protect themselves or they werent. Either way they did not stop an invasion. [/QUOTE