Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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 OohAah... wrote:

 Het-field wrote:

 OohAah... wrote:

which brings me to back to US dicating to other sovereign nations what they should do. China are a threat to the US in atleast as financial top dog in the world because of their massive manufacturing base. US dont like this and will do everything to suppress chinas financial progress. This goes back to Vietnam, some can say it was political ideaology, communism versus capitalism. But what does that mean, its pureley finanical, the US believe in private ownership and china beleievd in no ownership. The rich elite were threatened with what they could own/earn. The rich elite run the US.Yes china human rights brutal. but thats not why america rage against them in truth. Want proof? If it was the US would rage against Saudi Arabia and Israel. But they dont cos those countries arent a threat to them financially

And taking that to its logical conclusion, you shouldn’t be “both siding” the conflict in Ukraine. Why should Russia flex its military muscle in order to strong-arm a sovereign state into making geo-political decisions ‘advantageous’ to Russia.

I’m not here to defend the US. I’m not. But this leads back to the original discussion we’ve been having. Simply because the US “have form” it doesn’t explain the Russian invasion in Ukraine. In order to do so you either need to extrapolate far more from certain facts than is reasonable, or buy into narratives of people like Chomsky who are the patron saints of US centrism (I.e. every action is somehow related to America). 

Russia shouldnt ofcourse not. But America was also trying to steer the Ukranian geopolitical decisions.

And as America are ( although I fear increasingly less so) Top Dog in the world used their position to dictate or control geoplitical decisions so in many ways the likes of Chomsky is correct.

And yet taking that at face value that doesn’t mean their conclusions on Ukraine-Russia are correct. In short, it falls from the realm of political theory to conspiracy theory. I used the example of the CIA intelligence that arrived months after the Euromaidan, and the fire in the Odessa Trade Union House.